Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

acgobucks

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I recently picked up a Johnson 1955 5.5 CD-12. I'm looking forward to this being my winter project. I'm going to start by replacing all the ignition stuff; however I'm stumped at square one. Where do I get a flywheel puller for this thing. I've bought the manuals (I have a 72 Johnson 25, too) and have seen a special tool pictured to pull the flywheel. Do I need this, or can I get one from an auto parts store or something?
 

Paul Moir

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Re: Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

First, welcome to Iboats! :)

An inexpensive automotive "harmonic balancer puller" and three 1/4"-20tpi bolts work quite well:
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Get at least grade 8 bolts. Usually, that size doesn't come with the puller.

You may also use the hammer method on the 5.5, although I personally don't like it. Whatever you do, do not use it on the 25hp though. Have a look here:
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(Don't get wrapped around the axle about the pressurized tank business. Unless you're really neglectful, it works very well. )
 

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Re: Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

Great thanks. Can I get a harmonic balancer puller at an auto parts store (like Advance Auto Parts)? I plan on picking up a compression guage while I'm there. Just out of curiosity, what's the hammer method?
 

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Re: Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

Have a look in the Ignition section of that link I gave you. It's described and shown well there.

Yes, the harmonic balancer puller is available at just about any auto parts stores. That one pictured is the beefy "Lisle" brand one. A quick look at Advanced's website though shows me they want way too much for what appears to be the wimpy puller. Sears has a light weight one like it for $20. I'm not familiar with US stores though, perhaps someone else can point you in the right direction.

EDIT: A second look shows Advanced has some in the $15-$20 range. I somehow missed them.

Make sure you get a compression tester that screws in. There are some real cheap ones that you have to hold in place - you do not want to try to use one of those with a pull cord!
 

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If ya got a Harbor Freight in town, they have a Puller kit with what Paul showed you. I have a 55 CD 12 5.5 too. Coming down at the moment and parting out on ebay(carb on ebay now I think..can't remember ??) . Probably just don't even play around and junk the coils. If the points aint pitted too bad, polish them up. Make sure the wires are still good. Good motor, simple to work on. Good luck!
 

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Re: Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

Alright, got a puller (though I didn't have a chance a chance to buy the 1/4" 20 tpi bolts). I also got a pressure gauge. I screwed it in, pulled the starter rope four times, and came up with about a 70 psi on both cylinders. Is that enough to proceed forward with this engine? And did I perform the test correctly?
 

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Tilt the motor up, pour a little engine oil in the bores, crack it around a few times (EASY, it will blow the oil out), and try it again. I think your fine at 70 with dry cylinders, but it will come up. Then when ya get it running, DeCarb it good. Open the throttle too, to let maximum air in, but it really not a big deal on that.
 

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Oh yeah, hardware store Grade 5 bolts will work just fine too for one time use. Snug them up, good hard rap with a heavy mallet, snug again, rap, snug, rap, it will pop off the taper
 

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Pull the rope as many times as it takes to get maxumum reading. 70 is OK on that engine. Throttle doesn't have to be open on a two-stroke, that's a 4-stroke thing.
 

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Pullers and compression gauges can be obtained at nearly any farm store that sells auto parts. Tool outlets light Northern Tool, Harbor Freight etc. are also sources and will be the most reasonably priced. Your local Rental shop will also have them.
 
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70 is fine. Both being equal is great!
 

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Re: Flywheel Puller 1955 Johnson 5.5

F_R said:
Throttle doesn't have to be open on a two-stroke, that's a 4-stroke thing.

Hmmm...the piston travels forward, the crankcase is under a vacuum and the fuel/air mixture from the carburetor is drawn into the crankcase.

Just how does air get into a 2 stroke then, that opening the butterfly won't matter?
 

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It comes in through the exhaust port.

Since the exhaust port is "higher" or closer to the top of the cylinder than the intake, it is the critical controlling component of the low speed compression pressure number. Once things start speeding up, the effective compression changes due to aerodynamics. But at cranking or pull-starting speeds, you can just about ignore that.

For years I used some really cheap, grade nothingth, slot head screws in my puller with judicious use of the torque & tap method. I even pulled Big Twin flywheels with them. Grade 8s work much faster though. The original, OMC puller used "stripper" bolts which prevent threading too deep and have a high class thread form. That makes them stronger than Grade 8 bolts and prevents stripping the flywheel. I believe they're even stronger than SHCS.
 

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It comes in through the exhaust port.
Since the exhaust port is "higher" or closer to the top of the cylinder than the intake, it is the critical controlling component of the low speed compression pressure number. Once things start speeding up, the effective compression changes due to aerodynamics. But at cranking or pull-starting speeds, you can just about ignore that.

Oh yeah...guess I work on 4 strokes too darn much...learn, then forget something every day lately

For years I used some really cheap, grade nothing, slot head screws in my puller with judicious use of the torque & tap method. I even pulled Big Twin flywheels with them. Grade 8s work much faster though. The original, OMC puller used "stripper" bolts which prevent threading too deep and have a high class thread form. That makes them stronger than Grade 8 bolts and prevents stripping the flywheel. I believe they're even stronger than SHCS.

Agreed. I own nothing but Grade 5 and up bolts, and have no problem with the 5's...just toss after use (in fact, judicious use of force on my trusty long square shank screwdriver under the flywheel, nut on shaft, short handle 5 pound sledge/good rap, usually pops them off. But it takes a little experience (as you are aware of) to do this, and I suggest no one else try it unless they have a lot of spare motor parts, or feel like making some (that might be no good!)

I want to add that this is ONLY done on small motors...anything bigger, and the Impact and proper tools come out!

Good (as usual) post Paul, thanks!
 
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