Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

ermess

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Completed water pump job a week ago. When boat was resting in water, engine would pump water and keep engine cool from startup. Previous Tech had removed tstats - Idle head temperature was about 104 degrees. continued to work on other issues thru out week and as week progressed by Friday I was having to raise neutral rev arm to get engine to start pumping water Once flow is started she continues to flow and pressure thru tell tale increases as rpm increases engine now idles at 114 degrees. This is the 3rd pump in 2 months - first for me to install. If I put flush on (ears) and drop her in water she pumps water right away. If I remove flush and drop in water today she will only pump with neutral rev arm pushed up. <br />Possible circumstrances: <br />This is a 21' Shallow Sport with Tunnel and Jackplate. Jackplate is frozen at highest position. When engine is trimmed against transom water intakes are below the surface of the water, but by only a couple of inches. Further more, this boat has a unifit cavitation plate that encompasses the entire lower unit. At start up exhaust rolls up against transom and exits water. Could water intakes be sucking this exhaust?, Could pressure release valve be sticking open?<br />Poor guy has already stuck out better than $800.00 for three pumps. My gut feeling is that the jackplate is the culprit, but if not he is going to be out another $500.00 and still smoking pumps<br />Appreciate your help <br />Ed
 

rodbolt

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

put the t-stats back in, replace the pressure valve grommet and carefully clean the grommet pocket. when dry the pump must be submerged to reliably prime. that means the parting line from the gearcase to the mid section must be an inch or so below the waters surface when starting. otherwise the pump drain holes will suck air. also remove the rubber dam and holder just aft of the pump and under the plate. clean all the corrosion from the pocket, the holder and the dam. also check the nylon housing for any signs of melt around the insert. any sign of melt means the housing is scrap.
 

ermess

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

What is the best way to remove the pressure valve grommet? Can I test by pinching off pressure valve hose? <br />And with this jackplate fully extended the forward 2 inches of the parting line are out of the water.
 

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

so far I have not had much sucess by pinching the hoes off. you can try it. the t-stats are also part of the pressure controls so they need to be there. with the pump 2" above the water its going to give problems. time to fix the jack plate. the grommet can be removed once the cover,spring and valve are removed. dont drop the new grommet into the housing. if you do its retrivable with a bent wire. sometimes its easiest to remove the CDI harness plugs for access.
 

ermess

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

Thanks for your help Rodbolt<br />Do you know anything about Bob's Transom water pickups? Would this be a viable solution?<br />Thanks <br />Ed
 

rodbolt

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

your going to have to have a method to submerge the pump at start up. the pumps really are not self priming and have drain holes to drain them. the transom pickup will only work if the hull speed is rather high and the pump is submerged at start up.
 

ermess

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Re: Follow Up -99 yamaha 150 hp starting to show signs of not pumping

thanks for the info<br />Ed
 
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