Free rotted boat

gospurs1997

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Hello I am new to boating and new to this web site. Last week someone gave me a boat with title because he was going to Iraq. I was happy untill I took it home and found soft spots. Its a 1983 thundercraft. I pulled up everything in the boat. Now there is just a hull. I reaiiy would like to get it in the water to fish only.
What is the hardest part? putting floor in or taking floor out?
because I never want to take a boat floor out again!

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ITS A INBOARD OUT. AND I JUST FOUND THE TRANSOM HAS HALF WOOD ROT.
anyone with the same boat finish the job?

I want to do as much as I can before I have someone work on it
 
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Woodonglass

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Re: Free rotted boat

Welcome to iBoats!

Check out this guys thread. He did it all the RIGHT way. Lots of Pics and help. It's a LOT of work, Takes SOME money, SOME BEER but you will have a boat that is BETTER than New and will last for decades when you are finished.

http://forums.iboats.com/showthread.php?t=358277
 

gospurs1997

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Re: Free rotted boat

Thanks I am going to look that the links. I got the beer just need the money but it will happen.
 

Mark42

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Wow! Good job so far! The good news is boats like yours are pretty generic when it comes to the floor, stringers and transom. And the motor/outdrive combos were just a few so its not hard to figure out what you have and the parts you need.

At this point of the resto, don't throw away anything not made of wood or foam. Keep all hardware, especially things unique to that boat (even if broken!), like windshield, controls, cables, harnesses, navagation lights, gauges, railings, Rubrail, etc. Pretty much anything else can be fabricated.

Then when reassembling, clean and test the gauges, controls, etc. Then buy what you need, either new or used. Doing it this way will save you $$$

Good luck and post pics as you go.
 

gospurs1997

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Re: Free rotted boat

I was wondering if it's ok to repair floor up to motor only so that I have a floor to walk on, Then do the transom. Or do I have to do transom first. Also if someone can answer do I need to sand floor down and is there a coating I need to coat the floor with. Boat had not foam in it when I took floor out.

Before I do that I need to take out the long 2 by 4 wood
that is in the middle of boat. What makes the new wood stick to hall?

Thanks for your help!;)
 

Woodonglass

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Your order of business should be...
Check the transom. If it is bad then pull the motor and the out drive and replace the transom first.
Second. The Long two by pieces are what is called Stringers You should remove them and try to keep them as whole as possible to use them for templates for the new ones. grind all the old wood and glass down and smooth the hull then use some PL Adhesive to stick the New Stringers back in. Cover them with resin and Glass. Use Exterior Grade Plywood for your new deck Cover it with resin and glass. Paint or Gel coat the Floor Carpet it if you want or give it a Non skid surface of some kind, re-do the interior and then GO FISHIN !!!! Read that Thread I sent you ITS ALL THERE !!!!!:D
 

Isaacm1986

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If you want to save some cost on resin and fiberglass, you can use all treated wood. Replace the stringers with treated 2x4's, and the deck/Transom with treated plywood. Last you a easy 10+ years and you won't have to do all the glassing. There are several people on here that have done it this way, and has worked out very well for them. Just a thought.
 

lrcustom

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Re: Free rotted boat

Welcome to Iboats.

First off you need to read the threads in this forum they will get you going. I know you are looking to do this on the cheap and It can be done. My Sea Ray is a similar design to yours and I spent a long time shopping for it. I saw many Thundercrafts and almost moved on 2 of them. I loked it's simplicity of design.
Be sure you fix that transom first. it will be the most difficult part of the whole boat. A little rot is not acceptable as it needs to be flawless. That will mean lifting the motor out. you mounts will likly be in the same condition and I found that very common on the Thunders.
Don't be scared off cause if you got that boat for free on a trailer and the engine is running then you are ahead of the curve allready. Isaacm1986 sugjest is an option for you to consider. I personnaly did not go that way as I wanted to rebuild better than new. It is a way to go and I know several boats in south Texas that have gone that way and fish out of one that has PT stringers and deck that we have fished out of for 4 years with no issues. It's a matter of doing it well and not low quality that will make the difference.

Trust what your forum mates will tell you. Post Pics and ask the question you need. The right people are here and some have already chimed in. Woodonglass gave you a link to Fricoboaters thread great place to start.

LR
 

Isaacm1986

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I do think the exterior grade plywood wrapped in epoxy resin is the best route to go. It will last longer, and is probably stronger once it is wrapped in coaxial mat. However, It is also more expensive. At least here in washington state, Home depot sell the 5/8" treated plywood for $22 a sheet. So for a budget rebuild, it is one route to go.

I have also heard of a few people buying the exterior grade plywood and coating the heck out of it with boiled linseed oil. The linseed oil is $20ish a gallon. Might be another idea to consider.

I am simply throwing out some idea's. I am the kind if person who like to take everything into account before I make a decision.

I will be watching your thread, and good luck on the rebuild!
 

gospurs1997

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Re: Free rotted boat

Thanks for all the info. I am really glad to see there is help out there. I guess when I get off work here at fort hood I will look in to the start of taking motor out.

How long does it take apart. Its a mercuriser I heard they are easy.
I will keep posting pictures as soon as I move forward on the project. So far the free boat cost me about 60 bucks in tools and a week of take floor and seat out.
 

lrcustom

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One really nice part of a boat restore is getting the new tools. Harbor freight will become your friend for tools and supplies. Tools I have always wanted I now have. It's preaty cool and the wife is right there sayin stuff like maybe you need the bigger one or this looks like the one you need.

By the way - Howdy Neighbor from Bryan/College Station

LR
 

lrcustom

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You got a Mercruiser so it's nice to work on. Check out the mercruiser part of the motor forum lots of good stuff and links to manuals and stuff. Basically you are looking at removing outdrive and then the motor. I lifted my motor in one piece did not dismantle it was a piece of cake. Reassembly was also very easy except that I forgot I needed an alignment tool. Once in hand bang done.

LR
 

calboats

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Re: Free rotted boat - and F'Glass Repair Thoughts

Re: Free rotted boat - and F'Glass Repair Thoughts

I have built quite a number of boats from plans, and my own designs, motors are my downfall (working on that!) but there are some other building options. Treated plywood is deadly poisonous, particularly the green stuff, and it's expensive. A heavier floor makes a more stable, less flexing hull, and safer.

A word on epoxy. The boat hull is from the vile smelling polyester epoxy, I hat it and avoid using it -- but that is what your hull is made of so be aware thet the "Real" non-toxic epoxy resins are not going to be available, because they do not stick to each other very well. As one who had the bottom literally peel off the hull (first boat) when it gets pounded on in water, I know this. Water will penetrate way more on polyester (activator measured in drops) than epoxy resins of the one part to one part, or one to two, three or more parts. Not mixing resins is a good idea, being VERY careful with which you choose to restore with, is equally good.

I use over 1/2 inch thick underlayment ply as the top side is good, never see the under side, but it is a no-void plywood type. Make sure, as interior voids will help rot get started quickly. The ply glue is the same as marine, but a lot cheaper per sheet than marine. Cut and fit the pieces, leave the edges rough to allow the rot preventative to sink in, two coats. Trial fit then coat the plywood with a couple mopped on layers of cheap POISON anti-freeze. That kills any mould spores. Let it sink in and dry a week before you slide it in place, that makes sure the f.glass will stick, and it does that very well.

A first coat of resin to seal the wood, then a second to provide a wet base for the f.glass tape. by the way, it is stronger to buy 8 to 12 oz. cloth and cut it diagonally to get both directions of fibers across the seam. It is way cheaper than tapes, no raised edges, and with a 30 degree slanted cut a bit smoother to finish. Make up say 3inch wide strips and have them ready to lay when you put the resin down, be ready to move right along, watch set up times and temperature -- don't sweat into resin either (just in case), salty.

I use sheet foam plastic insulation for flotation under the floor, cut, fitted with a rasp, and foamed in place with electrical foam spray cans, to prevent shifting, pack it in pretty tight. If holed, you can get to the spot to fix it.

On my 17 footer, I packed the foam under the outsides to the stringers, left the center (on mine) 18 in. open for inside keel area access -- then made hatches on the centerline for rod, tackle, and other contraband storage. Well it helps to be able to get to the outer hull from inside too.

For a deck coating I chose textured pool walkway non-skid paint. One part, comes in colors, holds down carpets, and is pretty bulletproof, unless you spill gas and don't clean it up. Doesn't have much smell, easy to brush on, and to re topcoat if needed and dries quick. Four boats so far, good stuff.

On transoms, try a layer of f'glass cloth between each transom layer, then clamp it up and use S.steel square drive screws to hold it forever, rot can't start between all those layers as well, thats why you got the boat, right? Don't forget the anti-freeze there too, let it dry and trim to final fit after its all set. I anti-freezed the console, anything you don't want to rot.

Whew, Didn't mean to get this windy, but I had thought to get me a fixer upper for free this way before i decided I wanted to design the whole thing to do what I wanted, I have three currently on hand to do most anything, it's addictive !!

See Ya, On the water --- Cal

I must build em' tough, cause I lost a wheel, tore off the springs, axle and all -- at 60 mph on a curve -- boat slid down an embankment sideways into a drainage ditch, with a 115 Merc 6cyl. on a jack plate 2 feet off the stern. Zero hull damage, was in the water the next week end. Didn't move the 2batteries or 3 gas tanks. ALWAYS REPACK TRAILER BEARINGS REGULARLY.
 

gospurs1997

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Re: Free rotted boat

here is the other half

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I am about to go look at the motor to start taking it out , but think i need to make room first! lol
 

gospurs1997

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here is the old boat that with be made the fishing boat/ music box
thinking of paint job now. but thats way off.

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ezmobee

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Did it come with that bow mount trolling motor? If so, nice deal. Those bow mounts start at like $400+
 

gospurs1997

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It did. I forgot to check if it even works. Its hooked up to a different battery.
I hope it does work.
 
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