Fuel efficiency questions about going to a 2-stoke for the first time

perna00

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I currently have a 2007 19.5' boat with a sterndrive 3.0 mercruiser (it is the TKS carb'ed version). I'm getting pretty decent fuel economy in my opinion. I'm looking to upgrade to a 22' cc boat that has a 2006 200 HO ETEC 2-stoke Evinrude outboard. It is fuel injected so I'm sure it will be better efficiency than a carbed 2-stroke but am curious how much economy I'd lose having the 2 stroke vs my old 4 stroke. I know the larger HP and boat length will take me down a notch as far as efficiency but didn't know if the newer 2 strokes were close to the same as an equivalent 4 stroke?

Thanks in advance!
 
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robert graham

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A common rule of thumb for 2 stroke outboards is 10% of the horsepower at wide open throttle per hour....so your 200HP motor should burn about 20 gallons per hour at wide open throttle....now the E-tech may be a bit better but I don't know about that. You could check a place called: Yamaha Outboard Performance Bulletins for lots of information regarding a variety of boats/ motors/ MPG/GPH/GPM, etc....
 

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I made the jump from a 19' , 3.0 merc to a 22' Walkaround.

It's like going from a 1800 sq. ft house to a 3000 sq. ft house and asking if the furnace in the new house has the same effiency as the old. It doesn't matter since fuel efficiency is such a small part of the overal picture.

Between bigger boat, more hp to push, fewer weather restrictions, more hours of runtime and longer average trips, my seasonal fuel consumption doubled.
 

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I feel your fuel usage will double. Those 3.0 I/o are great on gas. You can look at some of the performance bulletins on evinrudes site. I personally love 2 strokes especially the new DI engines
 

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You will probably be amazed at the similarities. Outboard performance and economy "tain't what it used to be". With loop charging for carburetored engines; injection for that type, with exhaust tuning and streamlining of the lower unit and great props and all with PTT, plus pound per hp lower weight 2 strokers of this era really can give 4 strokers a run for their money. If you are worried about fuel all that much, go to the OEM charts on boat performance and look at the curves. You'll find that your best economy is just on plane, not blasting away at WOT. While on the charts look at your WOT fuel consumption handicap. If offshore you aren't usually going to be going all that fast anyway. Other thing is that the whole OB is corrosion protected whereas a lot of the Inboard type aren't. I have had both and won't go back to inboard engine propulsion and on outboard it will be 2 stroke.

I know nothing about the Etech but were I in the market for a new rig and all I certainly would spend time learning about them. Some time ago, 6 mo. or so, I saw a documentary on the Etech factory and it was very impressive. One thing that caught my attention is their usage of 0.0001" rather than the normal 0.001" tolerancing which is usually the norm. Just one example of the effort that goes into those engines. Possibly you can pick up the video on You Tube.
 

perna00

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Thanks for the info. I'm getting that these new 2-strokes aren't like the old Force Outboards that only run between gas stations. Seems like my biggest shock would be how much fuel I use to move a bigger boat regardless of the engine.
 

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E-tec motors are 2 cycle direct injected modern motors. They are very fuel efficient, due to their advanced design. If the HP of the two motors were the same and if the boats were the same, the E-Tec would probably have better fuel efficiency than your carb'd 3.0 motor.

However, the E-Tec is roughly 50% more powerful and the new boat is roughly 15% larger (and heavier), so the actual fuel efficiency will probably be less. I would not expect too large of a difference in efficiency.
 

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However, the E-Tec is roughly 50% more powerful and the new boat is roughly 15% larger (and heavier), so the actual fuel efficiency will probably be less. I would not expect too large of a difference in efficiency.
A 15% increase in weight from a 19' to a 22' is very optimistic. When I made the leap, the hull weight nearly doubled. Add a full tank of gas (100+ gallon) and your looking at almost 2.5 times the weight.
 
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Not the same size boat, but I run a 16' Alumacraft with a 90hp Suzuki 4-stroke while a good buddy runs a 17' Lund with a 150hp E-TEC 2-stroke. The gas consumption isn't that much different unless we're both running at WOT. From what I've seen with the new E-TECs, they are just louder and more smokey but very powerful and good on gas. I wouldn't have a problem owning one.
 

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Thanks for the info. I'm getting that these new 2-strokes aren't like the old Force Outboards that only run between gas stations. Seems like my biggest shock would be how much fuel I use to move a bigger boat regardless of the engine.

I bought a Chrysler 85 New in 1971. Fishing buddies were running 60 and 65 hp OMC Looper engines. They outran me and out fuel economied me. In 1972 I bought a new Caravelle and it had a 125 Johnson. Things changed significantly!
 

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Thanks for the info. I'm getting that these new 2-strokes aren't like the old Force Outboards that only run between gas stations. Seems like my biggest shock would be how much fuel I use to move a bigger boat regardless of the engine.

An E-Tec would run circles around a Force in every way. E-Tecs are supposed to have the efficiency of a 4 stroke and the performance of a 2 stroke.... O/B to O/B..... If my 4 stroke O/B would head south, I would buy an E-Tec....... Whats the hp rating for the 22'?
 

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supposed to have the efficiency of a 4 stroke and the performance of a 2 stroke.... O/B to O/B..... If my 4 stroke O/B would head south, I would buy an E-Tec....... Whats the hp rating for the 22'?

The key word here is "supposed".

The numbers in the performance specifications posted above are nothing to write home about. I'm running a heavier boat with a carbed 2 stroke. Rpm (4500) and speed are almost identical but I'm getting 1.9 mpg compared to 2.1 mpg. Nothing to write home about.

Here is my boat with a 225 Hp 4 stroke. At 4500 rpm, roughly 3 mph faster at 2.8 mpg.

http://yamahaoutboards.com/sites/def...2-9-10_owa.pdf
 
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perna00

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I actually turned down the boat. I went to inspect it and the seller through up quite a few red flags about the engine and I had a really bad feeling about it.
 

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I actually turned down the boat. I went to inspect it and the seller through up quite a few red flags about the engine and I had a really bad feeling about it.

Good for you for turning down something you wanted. It's hard to turn down something you really want, even if you see a couple red flags. Ask me how I know.
 
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