Fuel Fill Repair?

wewefirex2x

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I am still in the process of replacing fuel line (fill and vent). When I removed the Deck Fill (gas cap) I noticed the screws were pulling out of the fiberglass. I ordered a new Gas Cap that was bigger but now I need to fix the hole where the deck fill went through the hull. I have fiberglassed a piece of mat to the inside of the hull and am wondering how to fix outside? I was thinking a piece of 1/4 inch luan dipped in resin, put mat overtop and sand smooth then paint.

Does this sound right?
 

92excel

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

arent you just filling the while with your new gas fill??

maybe i am mistaken...

how thick are you trying to build up?

marine tex.. or more layers of glass is my initial suggestion.
 

wewefirex2x

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

This is what needs to be repaired. It is 1/4 inch deep. I was thinking about the 1/4 inch luan dipped in resin, put in hole and used thickened resin to finish. Sand and paint. The problem is it should have been cut out at 2 inches not 3 inches by PO.
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Mark42

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

Yes, you can put in 1/4" luan. I would remove the glass on the back covering the hole (grind area smooth), then fit in the luan, apply new layer of glass front and back all at the same time. That will give the best lamination and least amount of air bubbles, etc. After that sets, a few more layers can be built up. Then sand smooth, cut the new hole, and your set.

Trying to fit in the luan over the new glass you put in will not make a good bond because the new glass is not smooth and is already stiff with resin.

Another approach is to get the bondo resin with chopped strand glass mixed in. Then mix up a batch and smear it into the hole over the new piece of glass you have in there now. Let it cure and grind smooth, then cut the new hole for the filler, etc.

Which ever way you do it, I think it would be a good idea to epoxy a 1/2" piece of plywood over the hole from behind to reinforce it (maybe 4x6 or 4x8" piece). Cut the new hole through the plywood, and use long screws to attach the new filler neck. Remember, there is often a lot of lateral stress on a filler neck as people sometimes lean on the filler nozzle while filling, and that stress goes directly to the filler neck. Without any reinforcement, the new repairs could easily crack out. You can use the epoxy in the double tube applicators from the home centers. It will work well for this fix. This is also a good application for pressure treated ply, because the fuel fill is a place where water often leaks in. Don't forget to use a good marine grade sealer like boat life or 3m 4200 on the filler neck.
 

wewefirex2x

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

I have not fully decided what I am going to do. I may just repair that spot and drill another hole on the starboard side between bildge vent and transon corner. The way the fuel line ran put ENTIRELY too much stress on the deck fill. If I decide to drill a new hole on starboard side it would let the fuel line turn at a 90 degree angle in the bilge straight to the tank. If I leave it the way it is the fuel line needs to make a 90 degree turn off of the deck fill and then another 90 degree turn into the bilde to the tank.

Any suggestions?
 

Mark42

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

Making the fill hose as short as possible is generally a good thing. Fuel hose is rather pricey (depending on retailer, up to $8.00 a foot). So if you are re-using the original hose, and its up to taking the bends without cracking from age, (or just buying new hose) then I say go for it.

Remember to bond the fill plate (ground it) and any vent involved if it is metal or even CHROME PLATED PLASTIC!

If you really don't want to get into the body work involved to fill in the old hole and make it look nice, you can cover it with a piece of aluminum sheet metal or even plexy painted on the back side. Cut it just a little bigger than the hole, and a couple of screws and some sealer will not look bad and be a good quick fix.

I just put a tank in with new filler plate, you can see it here, might give you some ideas (like using an outdoor plastic electric box lid to cover the old fill plate hole):

http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/projectTut,p,503,00.html
 

wewefirex2x

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Re: Fuel Fill Repair?

Well,
not the greatest pic but i guess it will do. You can see the deck fill mounted on transom. If I were to move it to the starboard side there will only be one bend. What to do, what to do. IDK. I guess if I wanted to I could mount it to the right of the line bracket.
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