Re: Fuel tank
Holy Smokes how is it that I am being blazed for such a simple topic?
I may be new here on IBOATS and I do understand that a lot of info online is BS but there is a lot of good info on here as well....
I have to say I apologize upfront for displaying any anger or hatred towards anybody here on IBOATS but this is rediculous!
I was unaware that I needed to post my credentials nor the fact that I new what I was talking about. I dont post BS nor did I NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT Either SC or Yacht DR was trying to make points on.
NEITHER member had answered a single question on what either Baldy1 or myself had written.....
Now going back over each post there is WAY TO MANY quotes to prove this point. Both of you feel the same that putting a bow fuel tank upfront is not a good idea.
Are you serious, so all the tanks out there that are designed and built for the bow of the boat must be WRONG and the manufactures that have engineers and designers that implement, study, calculate, design, test, and retest have no clue what they are doing not to mention risking their lisenses to build and insurance on these products are all WRONG?
Do you see how silly you sound when you try to prove a point on a product that is already in production and sold to customers and in this point is a FUEL TANK which holds highly flamible liquid that is dangerous to life and property?
Now I am not questioning your credentials nor do I really care. But I do know mine and feel that I am being ridiculed and pushed as I have no idea what I am talking about and that is a personal attack on my credentials and voice on here that has to stop right now!
I am more then qualified to speak about liquids, fuels, vapors, hasordous materials, fires, or any other matter in this thread.
All of my Certifications and Lisenses in the Fire Department that I hold are Federal IFSAC Seals for ALL 50 States and I assure you as a Trainer Trainer in Hazerdous materials I know what I am talking about when it comes to fuels and vapors so please dont try to explain to me about displacing vapors in a space by means of ventilation.
Now back on topic with what Baldy 1 had started this topic about as well as myself and a couple others that are planning on installing a front mounted bow fuel tank.
A gallon of water weighs around 8.3 pounds. But a gallon of fuel comes in between 5.93-6.42 pounds per gallon. If we take a 25 gallon fuel cell and fill it with 20 gallons of fuel we can safetly say using 6lbs. per gallon of fuel would be sufficient for our discussion. Take 6lbs. per gallon X 20 Gallons in tank we have tipped 120 lbs. of fuel in our tank. That is 120 lbs of fuel putting pressure on the gasoline line feeding the motor. Depending upon the size of the fuel line and the length of it we will see a measurement of static pressure at the end of our fuel line so the calculation is definately going to be different for everybody.
To say 120 lbs. of any liquid is not creating a force of energy in which can change the characteristics of fuel inlets and returns is just false. Take a 6 gallon fuel tank and put it up in the bow of your boat 10 feet away from your motors inlet and tell me if you get good fuel readings I assure you "you wont". Every motor has different features, fuel pumps and were designed and calculated to be so many feet away from the fuel tank and without that info we are just shooting in the dark. That is why I posted the question if we need some sort of small fuel pump not to boost pressures to the fuel inlet, but to SUSTAIN fuel pressures CONSISTANTLY across the entire board wether the fuel cell is full or almost empty. You can always reduce the pressure from the fuel tank to the motor so that may be a solution as well.
Solving the issue of the fuel line was a great suggestion by SC and I thought I gave recognition for?
Now the picture Woody posted was just simply the picture of A front bow fuel tank. Not that all the features were specific to Baldy's or anybody elses needs.
The vent hose from the fuel tank is another valid point IF you did get the tank in the picture posted would cause for problems, YES that was not a question or problem that came up.
NOBODY ever made a comment on changing the design of any fuel tank nor did anybody post anything about building a fuel tank either. So I am trying to understand where that post came from?
As for the location of the fuel intake to the tank, vent line to keep the fuel tank pressure at its relative psi to size and quantity in the tank. That is what I posted as questions because there are bow mounted fuel tanks that are DESIGNED to go into the bow and I find it goofy to have the fuel inlet and vent tubes in the bow. So I was meerly asking if there was some sort of system, product that was used to solve these issues plain and simple. When all of a sudden I am being thrown under the rug for all this jargin and looked at like I am a fool.
There is a lot of info that I have learned from here on IBOATS and I am excited to learn more in all of the areas that I do not specialize in which is why I am here.
I hope that we can make this right and get back on track to what Baldy 1, Woodon Glass and myself were trying to resolve for our fuel situations.
