Funny Story...

BAproject

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...that I am no longer embarrassed to share.

So I am new to the boating world and as some know I am currently working on a project boat.

So the day I got here I decided the first thing to do was give her a bath inside and out. The outside went fine, but the inside present a couple of issues. Bayliner, in all of there wisdom decide to put only on drain hole under the back seating area, so unless the boat is tipped @45 degrees water don't drain out. Another problem I noticed was that water was accumilating rapidly in the ski locker.

This is where my stupidity really set in (which I realize now but only worried about then). The ski locker taking on water means that the tube leading to the stern was obviously blocked. So I grab the first thing handy, a heavy gauge drop ceiling rod (the ones used for hanging drop ceilings). I snake it through and notice it is not come through the other side. Of course the whole time I'm thinking that this little 1 inch pipe runs all the way thru.

Well, it doesn't! So I forced it a bit and finally it came through the hole on the other side and began to drain. Shortly after it backed up again. So I take my hose put the spray nozzle right on the drain hole in the locker and pull the trigger. Water start shooting out over the top if the gas tank. At this point I am severly confused as to how that's happening!

some crap came out as I flushed it back and forth. Since that day every time I open the ski locker I smell gas fumes. So now I am wondering if I have to cut the deck up to ull the tank and inspect it.

Long story short, one small idiotic move and now I have to pull out the saw and redo the decking on my boat, because I think I may have poked a nice little hole in the tank with the wire.

-BAproject

PS-feel free to share your "not so smart" stories
 

WAVENBYE2

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And people blame the problems on their boat because it's a Bayliner!! Funny story dude:D. I never wash the inside of the boat with a hose:rolleyes:, not our 1991's at least, You can wipe it down with a bucket of water w/soap, Let completely dry then shine her up with what ever product you choose Armour all Etc..
 

wajajaja02

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Re: Funny Story...

try to pressure test the fuel tank, open a thread for "how to test a fuel tank"
if you poke a hole with a wire it was no good anyway.
 

BAproject

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Re: Funny Story...

Ha.....good point

It's a 1991 20foot 2050 bowrider with a 4.3L v6 2bbl Mercruiser

It needed a good cleansing, apparently not with a rigid wire though! A bucket of soapy water would not have even come close to doing the job :)

-BAproject
 

BAproject

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Re: Funny Story...

WAVENBYE2....we have have the exact same boat....2 a tee

Ever get any fumes in the ski locker?

And bye the way, since I bought her I have not taken her out (due to obvious reasons :)). Is it a pretty quick boat on smooth water? 175HP right?



-BAproject
 

ezmobee

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Re: Funny Story...

More than likely you poked a hose and not the tank itself.
 

WAVENBYE2

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It's a 1991 20foot 2050 bowrider with a 4.3L v6 2bbl Mercruiser

It needed a good cleansing, A bucket of soapy water would not have even come close to doing the job :) I understand. The age of our boats I try to keep the inside as dry as possable, Once you get her good and clean a bucket of water and a rag will be all you need then polish her up when she dries and your good to go.

-BAproject

WAVENBYE2....we have have the exact same boat....2 a tee

Ever get any fumes in the ski locker?

And bye the way, since I bought her I have not taken her out (due to obvious reasons :)). Is it a pretty quick boat on smooth water? 175HP right?
-BAproject

Ya I have a great time out there, I catch up too and pass alot oof people and just wave bye to them:D She's quick, With the 1991 Bayliner and 4.3L we have a couple of advantages, Our 91's are lighter boats wide open spaced compared to newer boats and with the 4.3L Excellent fuel efficiency when she runs at peak performance, Tuned up, carb set right and timed, oil and filter changed and the right prop and she's a bat out of hill:D We have an awsome boat irregaurdless of what others might think of Bayliners but I love my boat and wouldn't trade her off or sell her, I have had NO major issues with her at all, everything is common problems that EVERY boat out there would have no matter what brand. We have alot of advantages that they don't, More room to work on her for 1. But ya she a quick one and I am very happy with her. Oh and no I have never had any hint of fumes in the ski locker.
 

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I have all 439 pages of the engine manual. Rebuilt all the external accessories (for the most part) and started putting her back together yesterday.

Don't have the outdrive manual downloaded yet, that's next

Gotta get the engine running so I can check compression and make sure she's running right. If not, I am going to have to pull the motor this winter and pull the heads and cross my fingers.

How fast would you say she goes? Also, I have a line on a 4bbl conversion kit and wondering if it's worth the extra HP?

-BAproject
 

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Re: Funny Story...

BTW, no that the intake, lines and all hoses are back on I am hoping the gas fumes go away. Again, crossing my fingers that I didn't damage the tank....but since the gas fumes are supposedly heavier than air it would make sense that it found the lowest point...the tube going into the ski locker.
 

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If the fuel line is plastic or rubber, with any age, it could very well be brittle. Apparently a portion of it is concealed which could be what you poked. I am surprised that it is not readily accessible for service.
 

BAproject

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I would be surprised if that's what happened. The wire may have hit the bottom of the tank if anything. All the lines (as far as I know) are on the top of the tank and accessible, unless I am missing something.

As far as overall tank accessibility it is very limited. I will try a pressure test and read up in the archives about it.

-BAproject
 

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The constant smell of fumes led me to pull the tank. Found lots of junk under it that wouldn't let the water drain out. Aluminum in standing water = pitting. There were even nuts and bolts in there making it even worse (dissimilar metal electrolosis)
 

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Re: Funny Story...

Interesting....
Is there aluminum brackets holding the tank down?

Also, to remove the tank you have to cut the floor out on top, correct? Kind of a big project.

Ultimately what was causing the gas fumes?

-BAproject
 

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Re: Funny Story...

All the lines (as far as I know) are on the top of the tank and accessible, unless I am missing something.-BAproject

There aren't any lines on the side, especially where you poked the wire from the ski locker(cooler) All the hoses are on top where you see them on top of the tank. Rinse that area real good where the tank is sitting, you never know what someone did before you bought it, then see if the smell goes away, I have never had any gas smell in the ski locker and the hole is free flowing, there shouldn't be any blockage that you described.
 

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Re: Funny Story...

I figured as much.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is a bunch of crap on there. God only knows what the previous owners did to the poor boat. Unfortunately, it would be in my best interest to cut the decking out, insect the tank and make sure that the drainage is good.

At first water was pooling (as stated earlier in this post) in the locker. I forced water through each side and this mercy gooey mess came drizzling out. To be honest I am surprised that everything is sound (no soft spots, etc...).

But again, the foam is probably water logged and I would be better off just getting rid of it and taking some unnecessary weight out of her. From what I have read that foam does nothing in assisting the boat as far as floatation.

This weekend I am hoping to get the engine going and tuned....wish me luck!

-BAproject
 

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BAproject said:
I forced water through each side and this mercy gooey mess came drizzling out.

Don't be surprised if that "mercy gooey mess" is the remains of your rotted stringers. Make sure you check them REAL WELL if you do have to look under the floor at the tank.
 

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I suppose I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case. But givent he condition of all other wood components on the boat it is surprising what good shape they are in. Especially the transom, solid as a rock!

I am guessing I will haver to pull up the decking and at that point will further investigate!

-BAproject
 

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If the fumes persist, you have no choice. Something hard may have gotten in there and, over time, vibration rubbed a leak into the tank. There were nuts, bolts, screws and two battery wing nuts under mine.
 
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