Fuse box for 1989 Celebrity? Glass fuses?

Chadbud

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Hi!

I had all of my Cuddy lights in my 1989 Celebrity 208 SE suddenly stop working. There’s an electrical box inside the Cuddy where you flip a switch to turn them all on. They all suddenly stopped working!

Not to mention my courtesy lights at passengers feet also stopped working. My windshield wiper has never worked.

I’m thinking the fuses underneath the helm behind steering wheel need replaced. But they are the old glass tube fuses.

I can’t find a manual for this fuse box. Are they all the same or are some higher amps? Just looking to purchase the right fuses for the job.

Thank you so much!!
 

Scott Danforth

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you most likely wont find a manual, for nearly all boats, they do not exist

look at the sides of the fuses, the amperage is stamped on the end caps of the glass in-line fuses

also, being a 32 year old boat, look at your ground terminal buss
 

Chadbud

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you most likely wont find a manual, for nearly all boats, they do not exist

look at the sides of the fuses, the amperage is stamped on the end caps of the glass in-line fuses

also, being a 32 year old boat, look at your ground terminal buss

Ahh I see now. Most of these are 10 amp 32V it seems.

Scott, would the ground terminal buss be in the same area? What specifically should I look for.

I should mention that I just got in the boat and noticed that the battery is almost completely drained. Someone had left the light switch for the cabin lights ON. Even though they aren’t lighting up anymore. This means that it is pulling power but not lighting up the lights? Right?

Boat has been out of water since the weekend so 3-4 days. Here are some pictures I’ve attached of fuse panel and also the panel inside the Cuddy. Since I bought the boat, only the cabin light switch seems to have worked. And now it doesn’t either.

Thank you for your continued support. Look forward to your response.
 

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chris.olson

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I really do not like those old glass fuse panels with spade connectors. It seems if it's not the fuse holders making bad connections it's one or more of the spades that gets corroded and fails to make connection. And the connection at the spade, especially on higher amp circuits, has voltage drop that will make lights really dim or not work at all.

You can pull those spades off and see if they are not shiny anymore and there is a dull-looking corrosion on the spades. If there is they need to be cleaned.

I prefer to replace those old glass fuse panels with a more modern ATO/ATC-type panel with built-in ground bus and screw-type connections for eyelet terminals, instead of spade. Use a little dielectric grease on the fuse blades to prevent corrosion on the contacts where they insert into the panel and they never go bad.
 

Scott Danforth

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Chadbud , so most of your fuses are 10 amp. my guess is you also have some 20 and some 5s

your looking for corrosion

regarding your dead battery, charge it, and if you dont have a battery switch, I would recommend one.

Chris Olsen nothing wrong with glass fuses, some boat builders still used them up to a few years ago

remember, a boat is a recreational toy sold to the public for the most profit the company can make that only needs to last 15 years (or 3x the warranty period)

ATO/ATC fuses still corrode, and most terminals used in production boats are plated tin and not plated brass. corrosion prevention is part of normal boat ownership maintenance
 

chris.olson

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ATO/ATC fuses still corrode, and most terminals used in production boats are plated tin and not plated brass

They should be tin plated copper, just like high quality marine cabling is tinned copper wire. Brass is not used in electrical. Brass has low electrical conductivity compared to copper, aluminum or silver, so it acts like a resistor in a circuit. Depending on the alloy, brass is only about 25-30% as electrically conductive as copper.

Put some dielectric grease on the spades of ATC fuses and they will not corrode. This is a good fuse block and it is not that expensive

https://www.iboats.com/shop/blue-sea-systems-screw-terminal-blade-fuse-blocks-legacy-imf-38108.html
 
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