Gas in Oil

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Just got the boat, whoever did the last tune up had two spark plug wires switched around could this cause gas to get into the oil?? V6 engine
 

HT32BSX115

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Re: Gas in Oil

Not usually, although a little might get in but you wouldn't run it long enough (since it would run so poorly)

it's usually from a failed fuel pump leaking into the crankcase..
 
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Re: Gas in Oil

I actually ran it for a couple weekends with the plug wires switched, the engine didn't sound like it was missing it sounded good actually we just couldn't go any faster than about 30mph. So If the plugs were switched and I ran it for a while gas could get into the oil?
 

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Re: Gas in Oil

I find that hard to accept as the problem. But you can always change the oile and filter and go for a ride and see what happens.
 

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it's usually from a failed fuel pump leaking into the crankcase..

Ayuh,... That would be My guess...
 

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Assuming you have a MARINE fuel pump mounted on the engine, locate the clear plastic hose that goes from the pump to the carburetor (it's clear so you can see if there's fuel in it while the engine is running).

You could also remove the hose from the carb and place it into a container and run the engine and see if any fuel comes out (If it's not clear.....which might mean someone replaced it). There may not be very much since most of it may be going into the crankcase.


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Re: Gas in Oil

I'll look at the clear tube, but I remember looking into the carb while it was running and wondering what that gasline was for...because as the boat was running no fuel was going into the carb from that tube. I dont understand why the fuel pump has any relation to the crankcase or why the two are connected? So if my fuel pump is bad i'll replace it, but if the gas is going into the crankcase....what gas is getting to my engine? Sorry so many questions, trying to understand.
 

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Re: Gas in Oil

Definatley not an expert but in my experience, a flooded engine, (which is basically the condition of the cylenders with no spark), will allow gas in the oil. This happens to a lot of people who flood an engine by trying to start it for too long. Had a work ruck that wouldn't start in -20 deg weather and the tow truck driver also tried getting it started and eventually had to take it back to his shop, drain the oil and get it started. I guess he didn't believe me when I told him it was dead and needed to be warmed up. Cheap fix, just change the oil and filter and depending on how much gas is in there, flush the engine. You should be good.
 

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Re: Gas in Oil

I'll look at the clear tube, but I remember looking into the carb while it was running and wondering what that gasline was for...because as the boat was running no fuel was going into the carb from that tube. I dont understand why the fuel pump has any relation to the crankcase or why the two are connected? So if my fuel pump is bad i'll replace it, but if the gas is going into the crankcase....what gas is getting to my engine? Sorry so many questions, trying to understand.


Well it depends on what kind of engine and fuel pump you have.

If you have an ENGINE mounted mechanical pump and the diaphragm is leaking, it will leak right into the crankcase. For marine pumps they put a small clear hose on the pump so it can dump into the carb intake so you can see the fuel in the line. In a car or truck it would just dump on the ground (and into the crankcase).

The fuel doesn't stay in the oil for all that long though. Once the engine warms up, the gasoline will evaporate fairly quickly.

Gas in the oil doesn't really hurt anything. Back in the "Old Days" (before multigrade/synthetic oils) Aircraft engines had oil dilution systems. In very cold or anticipated cold weather, The pilot would open a cockpit operated valve right before shutdown and literally dump a measured amount of fuel directly into the oil. The gasoline would mix with the oil and dilute it sufficiently to allow an easy start the next day. When starting the engine, oil pressure would come up right away........then later, after the oil was warmed up the gas would evaporate (completely)


"Flooding" an engine with gasoline while running or starting doesn't put all that much liquid fuel into the oil because what gets there has to get by the rings. Unless you have really BAD rings (or no rings) most of it goes out the exhaust valve burned or not.

So in most marine engines gas in the oil usually comes from an, engine mounted machanical fuel pump, that has a hole in the diaphragm.


My 454 Bravo engine by the way cannot have this problem because the mechanical fuel pump is mounted on the raw water pump. (when I got the engine the tiny oil supply for the raw pump smelled of gasoline!.....So I replaced the pump)
 
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