Gel coat pricing seems pretty wide among local shops

FreddyTT

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I had a guy do some gelcoat repair for me in the past on my last boat and he was reasonable I thought. Each time I picked up my boat, I would never have known there were chips down to the fiberglass in those spots. I have a new boat now and this man had retired, closed down his shop and does work out of a shop he built on his property. Has a crane and everything. I guess after 35 years he decided it was time to slow down and he now cherry picks jobs to stay busy.

My boat is 28 years old and it needs some repairs. Its 22.5' and a cuddy cabin. Chips, holes from things that used to be somewhere and an area on the keel that is smooth/worn down to fiberglass from years of beaching. This is all below the rubrail. The top of the boats gelcoat is in really good shape and is white, an easy color to match. The bottom of the boat and a V shape teal color on the bow. There is oxidation near the transom thats apparently bad enough, that my gel coat guy said he couldn't guarantee the oxidation wasn't too deep to be sanded out. Also that he could come close, but could not match the original teal color 100%. He suggested I just redo the teal with new gelcoat. He suggested Lilly Ram or Spectrum (I was going to look at color chips). The quote I got was $5500, plus some extra hundreds to fill holes (where an old bimini used to be etc). I was estimating up to $6500-$7000 if I asked him to do a few little things like replace the thru hull connectors, or add a brass, threaded drain plug. I want a couple of 3/4" dia. 12" low profile hand rails on the back too.

I called around and other shops in my area were immediately going to $20k and up when I described this to them over the phone. Granted my guy saw it in person and they didn't, I was shocked at the difference in price. I was quoted at 3 places, my guy and two others around $1000 to repair the worn keel and chips on the front and maybe a few hundreds more for patching some holes here and there. One guy I spoke to on the phone talked about it being a lost art and how there are all these hacks now and the guy I had worked with before he never liked anything he saw come out of his shop. This is a nice boat and worth restoring, but it isn't a show boat. I'd like to change the color of the teal and would love to do it for under 10K, hell I liked the $5500-$7000 number I had after talking to this guy I know. Now Im confused. I've never seen work from my guy I was unhappy with. He never did anything big like this for me before, so I only know his shop was in Phoenix for decades. Any thoughts on this? How can there be that big of a price difference? I attached a couple pictures to show the teal areas I am referencing.
 

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Scott Danforth

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FWIW, Chris Crafts today are painted. you could simply patch it and paint it.

Im a do it yourself kind of guy. I also am looking at either repaint or regel. however I will be doing the sanding, fairing, etc. and if I get a calm day, the spraying. Im leaning toward gel simply because the paint is about $750 a gallon and gel is about $225 a gallon
a co-worker will be bringing over his gel gun and air line drier to simply do the spraying.

point is, if you do some of the work yourselves, you can really drop the cost as a good portion of the $5-7k or even the 20k is going to be sanding down the hull
 

DeepBlue2010

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My boat is 28 years old and it needs some repairs. Its 22.5' and a cuddy cabin.

This is a nice boat and worth restoring, but it isn't a show boat. I'd like to change the color of the teal and would love to do it for under 10K, hell I liked the $5500-$7000 number I had after talking to this guy I know. Now Im confused. I've never seen work from my guy I was unhappy with. He never did anything big like this for me before, so I only know his shop was in Phoenix for decades. Any thoughts on this? How can there be that big of a price difference? I attached a couple pictures to show the teal areas I am referencing.

My thoughts are, a 28 years old boat "restoration" will entail way more than just restoring the outside finish. A boat of this vintage is/will soon be - more likely than not - in need of structural renewal (transom, stringers, deck and bulkheads) which would make the finish the least of your worries and expenses.

If you are not comfortable putting on some hand rails, I don't think you will be any where near comfortable doing this type of work yourself when needed. If you spend close to 10K now just to restore the outside finish, you will be way too deep into this boat to write off if/when you get 20K to restore it structurally. This is death by thousands paper cuts and this boat will end up being the most expensive boat you ever owned and at least 20 times more than its market value.

What I would do is to paint it. Gelcoat, lost art or not, is a type of finish that was designed to be the very first step of creating a boat. Factory spray it first inside the mold and build the hull on top of it. When the hull is removed from the mold, the gel is already shinny and smooth because it was sprayed on a very smooth surface.. the mold.

Reversing this process and spray gel as a finish is very labor intensive process. Not as far as the spraying goes, it is the endless process of sanding and polishing. It is like polishing a rock more or less.

There are so many marine paints out there nowadays that look and function much better than gel and some of them are designed for be put down with law tech equipment such as roller and a good brush eliminating the need for specialized and expensive spray gear which make them ideal for DIY type guys. Granted the gallon of these paints is more expensive than a gallon of gel but it also doesn't need all the labor of sanding and polishing.

Just my 0.02c
 
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harleyman1975

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I painted a 23' Cruisers with Black urethane enamel. Turned out great! We even put a vinyl woodgrain across the transom and covered the entire superstructure/area above the rail and then clearcoated it. Paint and woodgrain held up well for the 5 years that I owned it. kept it in the water all summer. had red bottom paint. (Interlux fiberglass botomkote NT).
 
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