glassing questions

kemp

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Hello everyone. Hopefully I can get some questions answered. I have pulled the bad wood from the stringers and cleaned the channel. #1. Can I epoxy the wood, glue it in, and glass over that to the existing glass? #2. Do I need to clean the old glass with acetone before glassing to it? #3. What's the probability of water collecting under the floor if you glass the floor in well?
 

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#3. What's the probability of water collecting under the floor if you glass the floor in well?

Ayuh,.... Make that 110%... That's why proper Drainage is so important....
 

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well are you using marine plywood for the new floor ... if so i dont believe glass will stick to it check with the place you buy it ... also dont put the resin on real thick over the mat because it doesnt make it any stronger just enough to saturate it will do wonders when i replaced my floor i glassed over the whole floor before recarpeting it ... i hope this helps i do fiberglass work everyday but mostly on old corvettes
 

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Glass will stick to marine grade plywood, you may have troubles over pressure treated wood if it hasn't been allowed a chance to thoroughly dry out the pressure treat chemicals. Any exterior grade plywood will work fine, the advantage of marine grade is the multitude of layers and lack of voids within the layers. The more layers, the stiffer the plywood is, and the glues used are water resistant, so the laminate won't peel apart if the wood does get wet for some reason. You can seal the wood and then glass it afterwards. Some prefer to seal with the same product they are glassing with ( thinned polyester or thinned epoxy resins )

the idea is simply to block water intrusion when it eventually gets to the wood. Any place water can potentially penetrate the wood fiber is the first place it's going to rot and it won't stop if it's allowed to "dry" if the wood is fully encapsulated in resin/glass, which is why it's important to seal all your screw holes.

Delorean thought they were going to be smart by epoxy dipping their steel chassis during production, so that their rust free Stainless Steel car wouldn't rust anywhere there wasn't SS. Problem was, chassis flex caused the epoxy to crack from stress over time, water gets in, has no where to go...rusts out the frame. Great concept, bad application.
 

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Polyester resin over epoxy? I thought this would result in delamination.
 

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Hello everyone. Hopefully I can get some questions answered. I have pulled the bad wood from the stringers and cleaned the channel. #1. Can I epoxy the wood, glue it in, and glass over that to the existing glass? #2. Do I need to clean the old glass with acetone before glassing to it? #3. What's the probability of water collecting under the floor if you glass the floor in well?

Hello Kemp..

Without pics. .I can only visualize.. here it goes then...

#1. Depends on your wood .. what wood are you using ? Marine ? PT ? Standard EX ? Here is what I would do.. USE quality low VOC poly for all your repair and EX grade ply. (1). Grind/Prep all the surfaces that you plan on adhearing for new glass. Then clean with Acetone. (2). DRY fit your stringers and Fiberglass cuts to make sure they can be secured in place without movement or interuptions during the layups. Do not kick any resin Untill your READY TO GO with the glassing. Resin coat your wood,place/secure wood, glass it.

#2. As stated in #1 you Must grind/prep old glass before "glassing to it". Just wiping with solvents or reducers will not do it.

#3. I Dont really understand the question.. If you properly encapsulate the floor with glass/resin then there is minamal risk of H2o entrapment ( with proper drains of cource ). As I dont really know the question its hard to say...

YD.
 

kemp

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Thanks everyone for the wealth of information. Pics are on a earlier thread called "Top Help Please". I will be using epoxy and ex plywood. My plan is to cut fit my pieces with holes for screws and then epoxy with about three coats, install and glass over, then durabak rubberized coating. Water-resistant and easy cleaning is my goal. The bilge stringers and the two side supports need replacing, all others are good. I also want to glass in a half piece of pvc down the center for drainage to the bilge. Hope all this sounds good to the experts. Again thanks for your input.
 

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:(I'd like to read the thread--top help please--but can't locate it??
 

kemp

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"Top Help, Please"... is on page 12 the last time I looked and "Glastron Rebuild progress" is on page 7. Another question is about the peanut butter. It was mentioned in another thread I think, that you start the transom rebuild at the top of the old peanut butter. I thought that had to be ground out and reapplied with the new wood? Any thoughts?
 

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Gotten down to this level as far as pulling all the wood out and came upon this ridge that the transom seemed to be sitting on. It is very hard almost like metal. Any ideas???? Do I take it out?? Also there are two 1x4s coming from the port and starboard sides and run across the face of the transom, partially. I cut them out to get the transom out.

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