Help! Screws through the bottom

Caycer

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I have a 1988 Bayliner Capri 1950 sterndrive. I replaced the floor and carpeting. After marveling at how good it looked, i got out and noticed that the screws i used were 2” too long and were sticking out of the bottom. Yes, i screwed them straight through the bottom of the boat. I am just sick. Can i just grind them off, create a divot, and epoxy over them? I’m not too terribly worried about cosmetics, just need to fix it. I’ve read about that 5200 stuff too. Any info would be appreciated.
 

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Don't grind them off :eek:

Take a bunch of pictures and post them so we can see your handy work. :D You are not the first to do this, if that is any consolation.

I would try to back the screws out and then see about patching the holes.
 

Caycer

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Ok, I work until 7am CST tomorrow morning. When i get home ill post pics. I hate the idea of backing them out due to the new carpet being glued down to the new floor boards, but i’ll Do what i have to. I just got it all ready to go to the water, just got my registration numbers, and discovered it last night. What a bummer.
 

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I have a 1988 Bayliner Capri 1950 sterndrive. I replaced the floor and carpeting.

did you also replace the stringers and transom? the stringers and transom will long have rotted prior to the floor rotting.

if you bought the boat and there was a floor screwed down, it was a deck-over....... where someone covered the rotten stuff. that is not a sound repair.

After marveling at how good it looked, i got out and noticed that the screws i used were 2” too long and were sticking out of the bottom. Yes, i screwed them straight through the bottom of the boat. I am just sick.

it happens. however please answer the first question. that will determine how we answer the second part. repair would be easy if you are dealing with anything other than a deck-over

Can i just grind them off, create a divot, and epoxy over them? I’m not too terribly worried about cosmetics, just need to fix it. I’ve read about that 5200 stuff too. Any info would be appreciated.

proper technique would be to take screws out and repair with PB and a bit of gel. screws are not needed on a proper tabbed in floor repair.

what exactly are the screws holding down?
 

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Agree pics, and 2 inch to long, bet we can come up with a fix
 

Caycer

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So I thought i was going into the stringers. Long pieces of fiberglass traveling from bow to stern? I pulled up the old plywood that was the floor and replaced with 3/4” marine grade plywood. The foam in between the fiberglass strips were saturated with water. When you stepped on it water would come up. I dried it all out sitting outside and then covered it and put a dehumidifier in it running for a week. Then layed the plywood down and screwed it down, put plastic on top of it, then glued carpet down.
 

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Then layed the plywood down and screwed it down, put plastic on top of it, then glued carpet down.

The deck should be fiber glassed in, not screwed in your case.

When foam gets wet, it will next to never dry out. You got most of it dried but I'm pretty sure there is still water inside.

The foam is poured in once the deck is glassed in. The foam is also an adhesive and bonds the deck to the hull.

If it was mine I would remove the deck, fill the holes, rip out the foam, then continue
 

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I hate to say it Caycer, but I'm guessing you have bigger problems than you realize below decks. If your floatation foam was saturated, it means your fiberglass-encased stringers (those 'fiberglass strips' you mention, perhaps?) are also saturated, as is your transom core (also fiberglass-encased wood). On an '88 Bayliner, this would pretty much expected, as Bayliners of that era weren't the best constructed boat. The redecking done by the previous owner was done either to conceal the extent of the problem or because he/she was ignorant of the fact that a rotten deck usually means rotten structures and soaked foam below.

In any case, there is a very good chance your boat isn't that safe because the structural elements are rotten, and it's doubly unsafe because the floatation foam - meant to keep the hull from sinking completely in the event of capsizing - is full of water and will cause the boat to sink faster.

You won't find many here who would advocate anything at this point except pulling off the new deck, the old deck and looking at what's below. If it is, in fact, saturated and rotted, you have to decide if you want to restore her. If it's not rotten, which seems pretty unlikely, you should buy a lottery ticket because your the luckiest boat owner around.

For your safety and the safety of your passengers, though, you really need to do some examination.
 

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So I thought i was going into the stringers. Long pieces of fiberglass traveling from bow to stern? I pulled up the old plywood that was the floor and replaced with 3/4” marine grade plywood. The foam in between the fiberglass strips were saturated with water. When you stepped on it water would come up. I dried it all out sitting outside and then covered it and put a dehumidifier in it running for a week. Then layed the plywood down and screwed it down, put plastic on top of it, then glued carpet down.

you bought a deck-over

suggest you read thru this entire thread (and watch all the videos) https://forums.iboats.com/forum/boa...nature-deck-and-stringer-restoration?t=510077

this is link 14 in the DIY stickies at the top of the forum.

once you read thru that entire thread, you will realize how a boat is constructed and how it should have been re-constructed.

right now your boat is not safe.
 

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On the brighter side . . .

At least you do not have a bunk trailer, for if you did the screws probably would have gone into the bunks. You may never have known the issue until you tried to launch.

I agree with the others . . . deck-over perhaps there is trouble below deck.
 

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On the brighter side . . .

At least you do not have a bunk trailer, for if you did the screws probably would have gone into the bunks. You may never have known the issue until you tried to launch.

I agree with the others . . . deck-over perhaps there is trouble below deck.

So Scott can you provide the benefits of bunk trailers and roller trailers? Pros and cons thing.? Always been wondering this myself and see a lot of yadayadayada
 
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