Help troubleshooting low power inline 4 50HP

joezek

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I have an all original 1982 50 HP merc. The compressions are all in the 135 range. The idle is good, acceleration seems average, but much less than it used to be. Every year the last three years it's been getting weaker. Now it can barely plane off if I put two people in the boat, and has a max rpm of only 4,000 at about 22 mph. If it's just me in the boat it will do 35 mph at 5200 rpm. I tried a smaller lower pitch prop (original one from 1982) and got even worse even though it's only a 10.5 x13. The 10x15 stainless one actually gives more rpm and speed.

I'm wondering if bad reed valves will cause a lack in top end power or if it only would cause low rpm problems. Also, where are the reeds located. In my jet ski's they were bolted to the intake just directly below each carburetor.

Besides reeds, what other things can cause low power on this engine? Timing is set right, carbs seem fine and the plugs all look even and clean. They're light brown, not running lean or rich.
 

racerone

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Reeds are internal on the crankshaft.----Check the lower crankshaft seals.
 

CharlieB

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Light brown on pistons and plugs is starting to go lean. Factory jetting is a very safe black.

First symptom of carbs getting dirty is extended time to get on-plane. Poor acceleration. Small idle jets are more apt to exhibit minor restriction in flow necessary for crisp acceleration.

Reeds seldom are a problem.

Clean the carbs. Do not waste your time running a chemical additive to the fuel, Sea Foam works better is a continuous preventive measure. It is too late for that now as it may dislodge a chunk and further restrict a main jet and cause a melt down.

Disassemble and clean the carbs completely.
 

joezek

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I'll pull the carbs and recheck.

Just a bit of history first. When I got this boat, every other week we had stuck floats, and major problems leaving the ramp which would clear up after some cursing and fighting etc. for about 20 min. So I added a fuel water separator, and not once did I have a problem in two years now. The engine had never been apart, including carbs, since new. So about a year and a half ago I pulled and rebuilt the carbs with some basic kit, because one float was in really bad shape and dripping on one carb. I thoroughly cleaned them, all ports, vents, etc. I put it in the water and in gear, adjusted idle mixture on each carb to get best idle. Timing is set per placard on engine. I only run 100 octane non ethanol avgas. The plugs are always clean.

I had a jet ski with same exact symptons a long time ago. Ran awesome until under a load, great compressions, ran through carbs multiple times, but hoooorrrrible top end. It ended up being a torn seal that was flooding the exhaust system with water and causing a major restriction. I was wondering if this engine has something that could fail like that.
 

racerone

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Post # 5 mentions the lower crankshaft seals ????---If bad , water can get into the engine and also to other cylinders.
 

joezek

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Ok, how do I check them? Is there a pressure check or something?
 

joezek

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I decided to try bypassing the inline water separator canister that I had added before last season. I was trying to figure out why the clear factory fuel filter inside the engine seems to run empty, then fill up, then drain down etc. and not stay continuously full. While doing this, I found a hairline crack in the fuel can plastic fitting that the fuel line is screwed into. I tried pressurizing it and theres no leaks, however after sealing it with epoxy it seems that the fuel filter stays continuously full now in the engine.

With that, first time back on the water with me, wife, cooler, 3 chairs, umbrella, and a few more bags of her things like towels etc... FULLY loaded- the boat ran about 10 mph faster than it's been running. We got a solid 5000 rpm and 35mph. It still feels sluggish taking off. 20 years ago my wife grew up using that boat to water ski with her friends but I don't think it's got enough torque to do that any more.
 
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