Here we goooo!!!!!

95ImpySS

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Started cutting up my soft deck. Here's what I found.

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The boat is a 1989, 19' 3" wellcraft 192 classic cuddy. What would it cost material wise to repair the boat? Just a ballpark. And any tips are welcome Thanks.
 

NoKlu

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

Resize your pics to 640x480. A lot of the guys here won't klik on the pics to get the larger size and you'll get more people looking at them. No such thing as foam thats a bit wet. Kinda like a sponge thats a bit wet. All the wet foam needs to come out as it will never dry and keeps the stringers wet as well, doing more damage. A proper questimate will be tough untill the full extent of the rot is known.
 

Mark42

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

Using polyester resin, lumber yard plywood, it should come in around $500 - $600.
 

95ImpySS

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

$500-600 is not bad.


Well let me rephrase.

What would it cost to replace all the wood from the deck down and properly fiberglass and install it. With myself doing the installation. With some guidance, I can do anything. If I am going to go this far I want it to last for years.

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D.spencer

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

$500-$600 seems very low to me .My first order to us composites was around $500.00 and it barely scratched the surface of what I have used so Far -5 gals of resin for the transom and part of the stringers, another 5 gals of resin to finish the stringers and it will take 5 more gallons to finish the floor. I have not tallied up my spending thus far ( mainly because i will feel like a Idiot for spending this much money-the upside is it will be paid for and like new when I am finished ;)) but probally about $1500-$2000 +/-. I am fortunate enough to allready have most of the major tools and equiptment I needed for this but I did have to buy some things- D/A sander, bandsaw blades,cut-off wheels, sandpaper and other abrasives, tyvek suits, respirators ( be shure to store these in airtight container when not in use), spare replacement cartridges for same, nuisance masks,disposable gloves,eyewear, you get the idea. Not trying to scare you away from doing it -just sharing what my real world experience has been so far-The way I look at it, I would have a difficult time finding something not allready like this for what I am spending.-besides- it is kinda fun.
 

J. Mark

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

Well I am going to say this. The amount of resin and glass you use is going to be the biggest part of your cost. For a 19 foot boat, 15 gallons of resin would seem to indicate that the boat had many layers of heavy glass put down on everything. A boat done this way will likely outlast the owner, and if not the interior and the mechanicals will be shot before the wood every fails (with proper care of course.)

I'd say expect to spend 300.00 on wood

another 4-500 on resin and glass

300 more on 2 part foam if you are going to use it

and who knows what you will spend on hardware and such as you go. I replaced a bow eye tonight on my project and that alone was 13 bucks plus a dab of 5200 (at 7 bucks for a 3 ounce tube) I am on my 3rd tube now.

I used 12-15 large tubes of PL premium adhesive during the project at about 7 dollars a piece

Stainless hardware was another 50-60 bucks by the time I was done and just buying wires, connectors switches and breakers really added up.

I'd say if you can reuse a lot of the hardware and use a reasonable glass layup plan, you could do it for $1200-1500.00.

I am just getting close to finishing a 19 foot ski boat and almost every trip to the store costs $100 bucks or more.

I used epoxy and 10 oz cloth with 3 layers on the stringers and transom, 2 on the seams and deck tabbing 2 coats on each side of all decking and I have a roll of lighter cloth for the final deck covering. All in all, I think I'll finish up with under 7 gallons. My wood may rot in 15-20 years, but if it lasted 20 years before I got it with wood that was not coated as well and with materials that were inferior, I think I'll get all the life out of it I need.

I made it a point to find out where the failures were that caused my boat to be in such bad shape and it was poor maintenance, shoddy mechanical repairs, and improper storage that started the rot. Then it was sistering in 2x4's to the stringers , adding cross braces, cutting into the glass, and not sealing or glassing anything that drove in the coffin nails.

Why did your boat rot? Until you can answer this question, a rebuild should wait. If there was a cause and you don't identify it, you risk repeating it. No matter what you use or how you do it, water will wick through just about anything with enough time on it's hands.
 

tmcalavy

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Re: Here we goooo!!!!!

Depends on where you are/live and the price of supplies there. Make a list of must-buy/have stuff and go around pricing it...that's the only way to know for sure. After you figure that out, spend the next week or so looking for other boats for sale...you might find one in better/good shape for the same money and not have to do all the nasty work to get it on the water.
 
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