Hole shot sucks!!!

sergioy

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I just got a 1989 20' Kinfisher with a 200 hp Suzuki and I am not impressed with the hole shot. It seems that it takes way too much to get out of the hole. Once I get going the boat absolutely flies. This is a bass boat but I would like to do some tubing and skiing from, but man how can I get out of the hole faster.
 

ivar

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

What prop do you have? <br />One trick that may help is to drill vent holes in the prop, to raise rpms slightly before you get on plane , so the motor gets in its power band. <br />Do a search, I'm sure it has been covered before.
 

sergioy

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Hmmm, hadnt thought about that yet. But I have done it before with an aluminum prop, this prop is SS. I'll definately give it some thought. <br />I may need some better drill bits.
 

Dhadley

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Lets look at your baseline first before you go drilling holes. Whats the top rpm? Which 200 Suzuki do you have? What about set up -- do you have a jackplate or is the motor bolted to the transom? Is there a low water pick up nosecone added? Has it always been this way or was something changed?
 

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Listen to Dhadley WS,<br /><br />Always optimise your setup before messing around with props. <br /><br />If your boat planes that well, you might find that the advice you get here will give you the holeshot you want with the prop you've got.
 

sergioy

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

I will get you the model number when I get home. I do not believe I have a jackplate, although I will confirm when I get to the pad.
 

fishingdan

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Most bass boats with the large engines are propped for max top speed. The trade off is always hole shot. Years ago on our ranger, we first had 2 props. One for skiing/tubing and the other for top-end speed. After a while, we went with a prop that was in the middle. It had decent hole shot and decent top-end. In either case, we had to watch the top end rpms so that we didn't over rev the engine. Not a big deal. After a while, I didn't see the need to hit 60mph much. Usually, we were comfortable running in the high 40s.
 

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

I have the '89 dt200 exante with a jack plate. It looks like my max RPM is at about 4400 (is that bad :confused: ). I played around with trimming the motor all the way down and then trimming it up, and that got me out alittle faster but still not impressed.
 

Ron G

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

4400 man that seems way low on rpms.. what pitch prop are you running now?
 

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Originally posted by water_surge:<br /> I have the '89 dt200 exante with a jack plate. It looks like my max RPM is at about 4400 (is that bad :confused: ).
Here is the deal with performance pad type boats and Max RPM.<br /><br />Some people dont have the B*lls to actually put the petal to the metal and trim to the max to ever really know what the WOT RPMs actually are. Or the boat will chinewalk and scare them before they get to WOT. The only way to actually know where your actual WOT RPMs are is to hang on and see. (It can be a white knuckle experience). Now if you are not comfortable, or have the expertice to do that, I dont recommend it with some of todays rockets as it can become fatal. So, if you dont like your holeshot and you are not a speed demon, lower the pitch on your prop and dont run WOT.<br /><br />I run my High Five most of the time, as I have several people in my boat a lot, If you want holeshot, I would recommend one. Its 5,700 at WOT which isnt too far out of recommendation.
 

sergioy

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

LD, that is a big 10-4 on the b*lls comment. I have had my boat at 70 mph and I went ahead and backe off the throttle. So I may never know my WOT.
 

LubeDude

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Originally posted by txswinner:<br /> Hole shot and no one said smart tabs.
:D Where ya been, we were just waiting for you. :D
 

sergioy

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

I am using a 14.25 X 24 SS prop. Would getting a 19 p help that hole shot. If I did get one I would just get a regular aluminum one for playing around at the lake. I would hesitate to get smart tabs as these would probably get installed right around the ladder area, and would probably get damaged or cause someone to get a cut on their leg. :(
 

Ron G

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Ya the 19 should throw ya back and get ya supper quick you'll have to watch your rpms,I would still work on the setup first raise it up 1/4 inch at a time,im working on the same process with my holeshot,let us know how it works.
 

LubeDude

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

Originally posted by water_surge:<br /> I am using a 14.25 X 24 SS prop. Would getting a 19 p help that hole shot. :(
Going from a 24 SS to a 19 Aluminum might be too much, I think I would try and find a 21-22 four blade aluminum and try it. Bet you could find a 21-22 High Five used on Ebay for around $200.00. You could pull stups with that.
 

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Re: Hole shot sucks!!!

These conversations always make me confused. When we are talking about "hole Shot" and conceding, and accepting, that "holes" are OK. They are just a fact of nature in boat performance, and should be accepted as that. Therefore we need a two speed transmission at the least. One low gear (prop) to climb out of the "hole" and the second higher gear (prop) to attain the top speed and economy. Sound a bit nuts? <br /><br />DHadley suggested that you look at the entire set up first, and that included the WOT RPMs and Speed. LubeDude suggested that it could be a white knuckle ride as the boat will most likely run over 70 MPH, and carefully watching the Tach at that speed is chancy. If the engine is too low the "Hole" would be deeper, and if the prop was not correct, then the performance would suffer. However, let's not accept the hole as unavoidable!<br /><br />What Lubedude did not tell you here is that he went up in pitch after eliminating the "Hole". The acceleration to plane time was about half, even with the higher pitch prop (23 up to 25). <br /><br />Look at the entire set up - even the boat attitude. Why choose a gear (prop) to climb the hill when you can run on a level road? Not to mention smoothing the road out in the process. Sometimes solutions are so simple we do not want to accept them. Gas is not getting cheaper so why not look at a more efficient set up. <br /><br />Placement of Trim Tabs can be flexible..
 
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