horsepower increase

backdraft

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I have a 1986 Johnson which is a great motor. I was wondering what is required to boost it to 60. I believe it's the same block. Carb? reeds ? intake manifold? Porting? After pricing a new motor and putting it of till fall, I am considering a hp increase on my present motor. Any suggestions as to what will give this motor a boost? Other than putting a new FI motor under the hood. nevjb
 

JB

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'86 Johnson? Want 60hp?<br /><br />Start with a 70hp. Retard the ignition, put baffles in the carb throats or use smaller bore carbs.<br /><br />That ought to get you to 60hp.<br /><br />Seriously, Nevjb. Increasing "rated" hp on a given displacement isn't worth the trouble or cost unless you are going racing and have DEEP pockets.
 

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Very funny.!! Of course you are right. I'm going for a new 60 Merc FI in the fall from the new Bass Pro in Vegas if all goes as planned. Always looking for more speed. Like I needed it. Thanks, take care and enjoy the day. nevjb
 

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You're right there are some series of outboards where the manufacturer produced the lower HP motor by simply using a smaller carb (1980s Merc 18/25, 1974+ OMC 9.9/15). However, I'm guessing you have a 60hp triple. Those triples are some of the most highly-tuned (hp/cubic inch) motors OMC made. Perfectly reliable if in good mechanical shape, but more sensitive to being off tune, and easier to then burn out (particularly the middle cylinder and/or exhaust jacket leaks). Lots of service bulletins recommending jetting richer, slight retard in timing, etc.. Yeah they made the 1986+ 70hp with the same displacement, but I'd be happy I had the 60. <br /><br />OK, that said, there's lots you can check in your setup to gain some top end (potentially). You want the motor as high on the transom as you can get, without cavitating on turns or losing water pressure. You can keep an eye on water pressure with a gauge, or just run a tube (temporarily) up to where you can see it, and watch the outflow. Once you find the right height, then you want to prop so you hit 5800-6000 with your lightest load (just you alone in the boat). A good, non-dinged up prop can make a big difference, & stainless ones are generally more efficient because the blades can be thinner. <br /><br />Goes without saying to check your WOT timing, compression, and general motor condition. Is there some reason to belive the motor isn't putting out full power/speed, at present?
 

Dhadley

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OK. Back to JB's question. What motor do you have now? A Johnson .....what?
 

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backdraft

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Sorry left out a minor detail. The motor is a 40 hp Johnson ,1986 . Just wondered if a carb from a 60 was the only difference to make that a 60 horse. Was the exhaust tuned different or the porting in the cylinders cut different. Just playing around with it. nevjb
 

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The major difference in your 40 and the higher rated motors of the same style is the reed stops. By installing Boyesen's you will have eliminated that difference. Very cheap, very easy.<br /><br />However, everyone who I know that has done this was expecting way more than they got. The reason is that the majority of motors are not set up to take advantage of what they have, let alone more. <br /><br />If your motor is set up now to run in the low to mid 5000 range, you -- most likely -- wont see much difference. <br /><br />You still have the same bore, stroke and gear ratio. The porting is very very close. There is a slight difference in the head and carb but again, they are very close. <br /><br />While you do indeed have a difference in horsepower, its where each motor is rated. The torque produced by each is very close. <br /><br />There are slight differences in blocks. The one that shows a slight advantage is the 326100 casting. But -- the advantage of this block only shows up at 7000 rpm and above. So unless youre running an SST45 youre not likely to be able to use this advantage.<br /><br />We have been way more successful working with set up rather than working on rated horsepower when confined to stock port configurations.
 

backdraft

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Thanks all for the wry, funny and informative suggestions. I believe I'll fly with your suggestions Dhadley. Inquisitive and allways exploring , thanks, nevjb
 
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