How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

Caveman Charlie

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If I were to go from a 15 1/2 X 19 prop to a 14 1/2 X 19 prop what would happen to engine RPM, hole shot, and top speed?
 

Dhadley

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

Way too many variables to give an accurate, standard, generic answer. It depends on what was done in that 1". Depends a lot on your set up. It also depends on what motor you have - we'll assume it's a stern drive. If so you're kinda stuck with the X dimension you have now. If it is an outboard you have a lot more options.
 

Caveman Charlie

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

Way too many variables to give an accurate, standard, generic answer. It depends on what was done in that 1". Depends a lot on your set up. It also depends on what motor you have - we'll assume it's a stern drive. If so you're kinda stuck with the X dimension you have now. If it is an outboard you have a lot more options.


OK,,,,It's 1973 SILVERLINE sterndrive with a mercruiser 140. It's a heavy boat, about 2400 pounds loaded. It has a 15 1/2 X 19 But, I banged up my prop and found one on sale that's a inch smaller. there is no marinea near me that will let me try a prop out. And, if there was I couldn't afford to pay them. I only had the boat in the water once with the 15 1/2 X 19 prop before I ruined it. It almost appeared to be a little low on RP M's. But, that OK with me I don't intend to run at full throttle anyway. About 3800 to 4000 is where I will cruise. I mostly will use the boat as a fishing boat but, once a year or so I may pull a skier or a tube or a knee board.
 

wca_tim

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

think about the fact that blade surface area goes up with radius squared... in a nutshell all other things being close to equal (even though they're not), it doesn't take a lot of diameter to make a lot more prop...

would probably work, but you may see significant handling differences, perhaps poorer fuel economy, maybe better... hard to tell without real information on what kind of speed, rpm and slip numbers you were getting before.

Note that 15 1/2 does sound a little large... and a 14 1/2 might even do better. If you look at the options on here for low end aluminum props, it might be cheaper than you think. I hear you on paying for things and money being tight... bet most on here have been in that place before. I hope you find something workable that fits in your budget...
 

Caveman Charlie

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

The used prop I ordered from E bay showed up today. Now I have a prop just like my old one so I'll have to go with that and hope I never bugger it up that bad again. I'll never know my actual speed because I have no speedometer. And , I have no idea how you would calculate slip. As for RPM's when I wrote this post this morning I didn't have a prop at all. And, I only had the boat in the water once before I buggered up the prop. So, I'll find out RPM's this weekend after I go out with the 15 1/2 prop. Be nice to have a second prop on hand someday.
 

Kamcoman

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

Surely you know somebody with a GPS (handheld, car with windshield mount, etc.). Borrow it for an afternoon on the water and you make yourself a little chart of RPM & speed to keep on the boat.

Keith :)
 

reelfishin

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

I would be more inclined to just look for a prop with a lower pitch than go a full inch smaller. I run a 15 1/2" x17 pitch prop on a Merc 120 on a boat that weighs in at about 2000 lbs and its about right. I would think that going smaller would make more of a difference in most cases than dropping one or two points in pitch.

So far, all of my older I/O boats have used a 15 1/2" prop, with only the pitch varying according to hp.

How bad did you bang up your old prop? Maybe it can be fixed?
 

PowerAddict

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

I would be more inclined to just look for a prop with a lower pitch than go a full inch smaller. I run a 15 1/2" x17 pitch prop on a Merc 120 on a boat that weighs in at about 2000 lbs and its about right. I would think that going smaller would make more of a difference in most cases than dropping one or two points in pitch.

So far, all of my older I/O boats have used a 15 1/2" prop, with only the pitch varying according to hp.

How bad did you bang up your old prop? Maybe it can be fixed?

whats your mph and rpm?
 

reelfishin

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

whats your mph and rpm?

In light chop, I top out about 33 mph, but on smooth water its more like 30 mph with two guys and gear. I can't say for sure on the RPM, (No tach), but and educated guess would be about 3400 to 3500 RPM. I don't push it much since its so old, but it gets the job done and is great on gas. The original manual says 4400 max RPM, but I don't push it that hard. It spends most of its cruising at about 2800 RPM or so just under 30 MPH. It's not a problem since the river is full of no wake zones anyhow and it rarely ever sees wide open throttle. It don't gain much speed over 3300 RPM regardless of which prop I use. The hull design probably has a lot to do with that, as does the fact that its a bit stern heavy.
It had a 15 1/2" x 19 on it when I got it and did a little more MPH, but was weak out of the hole and I didn't like how it felt with a full load on. I actually keep several props for various areas, but I tend to stick with the 17P most of the time, I on occasion put on an 18P if I am staying in the river or running light.

It's also on an older 17 1/2' trihull so it's not the most hydrodynamic hull ever made. The hull weighs in at about 1300, plus 18 gallons of fuel, spare oil, a spare prop, assorted tackle, safety equipment, bimini top, and two guys I figure it's on the heavy side of 2000 lbs afloat.

I did try a 23 pitch prop once, with a light load, (just me), it was super sluggish out of the hole and had trouble getting on plane and staying there. It just didn't have the power to pull that pitch prop. I had tried that prop just out of curiosity and it was what I had to use while the one I wanted was on order. The best all around prop is probably the 15 1/2" x18P but I use this mostly just for fishing and on most trips, the boat is near capacity in my opinion.

The one thing I did notice is that the two props have very little affect on fuel usage, with the lower pitch prop probably being a little easier on fuel. It's way better on fuel than any of my outboard boats. I've had a tank last a full weekend of fishing and then some.
My biggest problem is that it takes more fuel to get this one to the water, I need to use a larger truck to tow and launch it, so that cost me as much as the boat burns just to get it there with the bigger truck. I can tow and launch my outboard boats with my Ford Ranger which gets almost 20 MPG towing compared to 10 MPG out of my full size Dodge van.

Just a note and back to the original topic, from dealing with outboards, it's been my experience that a one inch drop in prop diameter without changing the pitch, results in about an 800 RPM increase in engine speed. I would venture to guess this to be about the same with an stern drive too.
One step up or down in pitch makes about a 200 RPM difference given prop diameter says the same.
Other than RPM, the other factors will vary boat to boat. On mine, a smaller prop created a slower hole shot and blew out easily under way. Keep in mind that a Stern drive engine makes much more torque than do most 2 stroke outboards and it's been my experience that they do better with a larger diameter prop.
The only way I would consider a drop in diameter is if going from an aluminum to stainless prop which in turn has far less flex in the blades.

In short, a reduction in diameter will have far more effect on RPM than a step up or down in prop pitch. If your RPMs are a bit low, drop the pitch to a 17 or 18 but I'd leave the diameter alone.
 

Caveman Charlie

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Re: How much difference does a inch of diameter make?

Surely you know somebody with a GPS (handheld, car with windshield mount, etc.). Borrow it for an afternoon on the water and you make yourself a little chart of RPM & speed to keep on the boat.

Keith :)

Um, no I really don't. I live in the country and it's purty hard to get lost around here so nobody has one. Besides, we believe in using a antique device for finding our way places. It's called a map.;) :p:D
 
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