Troy_from _Oz
Petty Officer 2nd Class
- Joined
- Sep 29, 2002
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- 126
Here's a question that will probably stir up a bees nest.<br /><br />Background: have a very old merc (1971) engine that has got the odd problem with it. Current repairs will cost me about $700 in parts to solve the problems that i know of at the moment... (in fact theres a rattle i know of but dont want to go there just yet 
). So im wondering if its better to put my money into a newer 2ndhand or new engine... (wife permitting that is). secondhand engines are looking like about $2700 for a 10-12 yr old engine and $1700 for a 20 yr old engine from dealers. These are AUD, not US, but youll get the idea. a new 40hp Yam is $5200 for an over-the-phone price and $5800 for merc.<br /><br />So, a 10yr old engine is going to be about half (48%) the price of a new one. Obviously if i could barter the new yam down to say 4000, its then down to about 32% cheaper and so on. (notwithstanding that i could also barter the 2ndhnd down too)<br /><br />I guess my question is, how much could someone expect to squeeze out of the price you get over the phone? I know this will be greatly variable based on dealer size, market size and any other number of factors, Ig uess if someone out there thinks they got a great deal...how good was it? did you beat the guy down from 10000 to 7000, or from 10000 to 9500? just after general stuff like that.<br /><br />I guess the reason i ask is that here in australia, there's a huge mark up on cars eg. Dealers selling new cars (but last years stock) for like $17000. new price on current model is maybe $26000 - lots of profit for the dealer if you bought it full price last year. presumably the car dealer wouldnt sell it if he still wasnt making profit. This makes his profit at least 34% of the list price...Does the same happen with outboards?<br /><br />I hope i dont step on too many toes by asking this question, as it may not be PC to ask this??? If it isnt, i apologise in advance. <br /><br />Many thanks<br />Troy
). So im wondering if its better to put my money into a newer 2ndhand or new engine... (wife permitting that is). secondhand engines are looking like about $2700 for a 10-12 yr old engine and $1700 for a 20 yr old engine from dealers. These are AUD, not US, but youll get the idea. a new 40hp Yam is $5200 for an over-the-phone price and $5800 for merc.<br /><br />So, a 10yr old engine is going to be about half (48%) the price of a new one. Obviously if i could barter the new yam down to say 4000, its then down to about 32% cheaper and so on. (notwithstanding that i could also barter the 2ndhnd down too)<br /><br />I guess my question is, how much could someone expect to squeeze out of the price you get over the phone? I know this will be greatly variable based on dealer size, market size and any other number of factors, Ig uess if someone out there thinks they got a great deal...how good was it? did you beat the guy down from 10000 to 7000, or from 10000 to 9500? just after general stuff like that.<br /><br />I guess the reason i ask is that here in australia, there's a huge mark up on cars eg. Dealers selling new cars (but last years stock) for like $17000. new price on current model is maybe $26000 - lots of profit for the dealer if you bought it full price last year. presumably the car dealer wouldnt sell it if he still wasnt making profit. This makes his profit at least 34% of the list price...Does the same happen with outboards?<br /><br />I hope i dont step on too many toes by asking this question, as it may not be PC to ask this??? If it isnt, i apologise in advance. <br /><br />Many thanks<br />Troy