How not to - Provided by Whale Wars...

wingmastr23

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Anyone watch the how not to pull your boat out of a rocky reef on Whale Wars last night? Don't drop your lower unit in a foot of water in the first place....and when you hear your SS prop churning on rocks....don't give it more gas!!!

Those people are morons....they have no business on the water.....
 

a70eliminator

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Re: How not to - Provided by Whale Wars...

I posted that in dockside chat this morning, how stupid, I'm starting to think some of those guys are idiots.
 

RobbyA

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I have a hard time watching those morons. OTOH I am sorry I missed last nights episode to see them tearing there stuff up.

Here is a funny episode of southpark making fun of them......lol I am not much on south park, but this episode is hilarious.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/251888/
 

RogersJetboat454

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These people are idiots with out a doubt. The writing is on the wall when you decide to decorate the inside of a ship akin to the inside of a grateful dead bus.

Their passion for a good cause is duly noted, but I think its only a matter of time before you see an episode when someone is badly injured or killed. Or they finally sink the "Steve Irwin", while slamming its hull (with an ice rating of 0) through all the ice fields they cross.
 

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Agreed. Although I don't follow the show I have aught bits and pieces while surfing. Last one was both of their inflatables we swamped. I'm sure we're talking 100K+ twin OB rigs. They had no clue that the water lapping over those outboards was gonna ruin them.
 

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Remember the episode where the Japanese boat cuts off the entire bow of their high speed boat? I could not believe those guys were so dumb as to not be able to maneuver out of the way. So they flounder around without the first 10 feet or so of the boat, taking on water like there is no tomorrow....

Meanwhile, back on the Steve Irwin, they are watching all of this through binoculars. And they all stand around wondering if their little boat was hit, worry, worry, worry..... Wait about 5 minutes, before they CONFIRM the boat was hit, THEN start emergency rescue plan. Darn, they should have been getting the boat ready to drop in the ocean when they suspected the other boat was hit.

These fools are completely out of their element. Untrained, unknowing, and clueless about what to do in an emergency. Some day, someone is going to die because they are incompetent.
 

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Agree with all posts so far...but OTOH, the sharks need fresh meat, too.
 

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Yeah, trust-fund kids with expensive toys. The net effect of that show has been to make me more sympathetic with the Japanese fleet. At least they are professional mariners and fishermen.

I can relate to that a hell of a lot more than a bunch of self-important mastercard marxists playing batman.
:rolleyes:
 

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Re: How not to - Provided by Whale Wars...

Maybe I could Google this up, but here's my question: are the Japanese boats taking the whales illegally?
 
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Maybe I could Google this up, but here's my question: are the Japanese boats taking the whales illegally?


Short answer - yes.

Long answer - the japanese whalers are using an exemption in whaling treaties which allows for scientific research. Of course you need to butcher hundreds of whales a year, package the meat on a refridgerated ship, and sell it back in Japan to do research don't you?
 

a70eliminator

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Re: How not to - Provided by Whale Wars...

Ok I could google this but too but are these whale populations on any endangered species list?
 

RogersJetboat454

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Ok I could google this but too but are these whale populations on any endangered species list?


Yep. They mainly focus on Niki whales which have a fairly high population, but they also take humpbacks and right whales which are both endangered. Their quota for hump backs this year is supposedly at 50.
 

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Re: How not to - Provided by Whale Wars...

Anyone watch the how not to pull your boat out of a rocky reef on Whale Wars last night? Don't drop your lower unit in a foot of water in the first place....and when you hear your SS prop churning on rocks....don't give it more gas!!!

The narrator did mention that each boat cost $100,000. I also can't believe they don't carry spare props. (What if they hit a chunk of ice?)

Did you see how they tied those inflatables off in the first place? They had one line to the first, and one line from the first to the second. They tied them at the transoms! In a storm!! The waves were washing over the transoms, filling the boats, and stressing the line so much that it started to fray.

One deckhand almost got cut in half as he was trying to fix the line.

Another bonehead thing they did was allowing the helicopter to take off knowing that the field repair wouldn't hold.

Those people are morons....they have no business on the water.....

Not morons -- just completely inexperienced. Which, to me, is a recipe for disaster. Someone is going to die if they keep going the way they're going.

And for what? TV ratings? So Paul Watson can get enough money to do nothing again next year? No wonder he was thrown out of Greenpeace. He's a loose cannon.
 

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Short answer - yes.

Long answer - the japanese whalers are using an exemption in whaling treaties which allows for scientific research.

Actually, then, the short answer is 'no' - they are not breaking the law. If the treaty needs to be changed, it needs to be changed. The Japanese are abiding by the treaty as it is currently written.

People who are truly concerned about this should be pressuring their elected representatives to eliminate the privisions of the treaty that allow this activity.

The Whale Wars idiots should all be under arrest for the blatantly illegal activities THEY engage in. I don't care if they kill themselves, but they put the whalers at risk constantly.

My .02
 

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I've never watched that garbage and never will. Back in the 90s I had some PITA activists vandalize my truck while deer hunting. Even if I had been doing something wrong nobody has the right to take the law into their own hands. I think if I watched that show I would tend to pull for the Whalers to sink the activists boats.
 

wingmastr23

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I've never watched that garbage and never will. Back in the 90s I had some PITA activists vandalize my truck while deer hunting. Even if I had been doing something wrong nobody has the right to take the law into their own hands. I think if I watched that show I would tend to pull for the Whalers to sink the activists boats.

I find myself pulling for the whalers often....lol This show is similar to your experience.....ignorant people being used by the captain's hunger for publicity.

Their motto is: The whales are our clients.....In essence giving them the right to break the law....and disregard human life.....
 

Gromulin

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Actually, then, the short answer is 'no' - they are not breaking the law. If the treaty needs to be changed, it needs to be changed. The Japanese are abiding by the treaty as it is currently written.

People who are truly concerned about this should be pressuring their elected representatives to eliminate the privisions of the treaty that allow this activity.

The Whale Wars idiots should all be under arrest for the blatantly illegal activities THEY engage in. I don't care if they kill themselves, but they put the whalers at risk constantly.

My .02

Amen. If it were illegal under international law, then shouldn't the UN be enforcing those laws, and not a bunch of Greenpeace washouts and trustifarians? That's what we pay all those billions of dollars to the UN for right? To enforce international treaties? No? Oh, sorry. My Bad. Maybe they will write them a strongly worded memo. On official UN stationary!

I think I'm going out for Sushi tonight.
 
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