How to call the police

IVAZ

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George, an elderly man, was going up to bed, when his wife told him that he'd left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light, but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things.

He phoned the police, who asked "Is someone in your house?"

He said "No," but some people are breaking into my garden shed and stealing from me.

Then the police dispatcher said "All patrols are busy. You should lock your doors and an officer will be along when one is available."

George said, "Okay."

He hung up the phone and counted to 30.


Then he phoned the police again.

"Hello, I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people stealing things from my shed. Well, you don't have to worry about t hem now because I just shot them." and he hung up.

Within five minutes, six Police Cars, a SWAT Team, a Helicopter, two Fire Trucks, a Paramedic, and an Ambulance showed up at the residence, and caught the burglars red-handed.

One of the Policemen said to George, "I thought you said that you'd shot them!"

George said, "I thought you said there was nobody available!"
 

Numlaar

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LOL that is a good story hehe

It's amazing how fast they "can" respond when they want too...

My store was robbed and when I called the cops that was one of the things they asked: "are they still in the store?" I said "no, it happened last night..."

which equated to: no rush on their part... 3 hours later they showed up to file the report and do the investigation, while I had to keep my store closed so they could fingerprint and stuff... I am sure if I had said they were still in the store they would have been there in minutes!
 

CaptainKev

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Nice move George.............if he'd had tried that in my neck of the woods he would be receiving a bill from the county for all the vehicles not needed.:D:D
Kev.
 

And-Con

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heh, in Florida i think he could have (possibly even legally) dropped them. now don't ask how i know this but if the cops get called on a suicide attempt they get there fast.
 

tx1961whaler

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After dark in Texas, you can shoot people stealing your property. Can't do it in the daytime, however. Weird law....
 

Fly Rod

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In mass you have to offer them coffee or tea.
 

Bill Kilgore

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After dark in Texas, you can shoot people stealing your property. Can't do it in the daytime, however. Weird law....

The reason Texas has so many good lawyers is that here there are "More men in need of killin' than horses in need of stealin'" I don't know who said that first, but it makes since.
 

IVAZ

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After dark in Texas, you can shoot people stealing your property. Can't do it in the daytime, however. Weird law....

This is not true.
In Texas you can shoot people for stealing in broad daylight. You can shoot someone for stealing even if its your neighbors property. Look up Joe Horn.
 

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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Ccw

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tx1961whaler

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This is not true.
In Texas you can shoot people for stealing in broad daylight. You can shoot someone for stealing even if its your neighbors property. Look up Joe Horn.
You sure about that? Make sure you absolutely understand the law before you go shooting anybody. Joe Horn got no-billed by a grand jury. OJ got acquitted. Is that supposed to mean something?

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.
 

lowkee

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I'm in love. That law should be added to the Constitution :)
 

IVAZ

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You sure about that? Make sure you absolutely understand the law before you go shooting anybody. Joe Horn got no-billed by a grand jury. OJ got acquitted. Is that supposed to mean something?

Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994.

IN Texas you can protect your property. You can also legally protect your neighbors property if he asked you to. The reason Joe Horn took any grief was because he shot the thieves in the back (and in the middle of the street) and he had to prove his neighbor wanted his property protected. Had he shot them in the front (and his own property) it would be no issue for him. All you have to do is prove you felt your life was in danger to shoot someone. I guaranty you will feel that your life is in danger if you have a break in. I got a lot of details about Joe Horn because we live in the exact same neighborhood. Still, the point is that you can absolutely shoot someone for stealing on your property in broad daylight. No need to debate this, its already proven true.
 

tx1961whaler

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IN Texas you can protect your property. You can also legally protect your neighbors property if he asked you to. The reason Joe Horn took any grief was because he shot the thieves in the back (and in the middle of the street) and he had to prove his neighbor wanted his property protected. Had he shot them in the front (and his own property) it would be no issue for him. All you have to do is prove you felt your life was in danger to shoot someone. I guaranty you will feel that your life is in danger if you have a break in. I got a lot of details about Joe Horn because we live in the exact same neighborhood. Still, the point is that you can absolutely shoot someone for stealing on your property in broad daylight. No need to debate this, its already proven true.

In reality, you are correct. A grand jury will normally not indict in cases like this. The devil is in the details. The way the law reads, you are perfectly allowed to use deadly force, at nighttime, to protect your property (or other's, if authorized). It's not the same case in the daytime, however, for just pure property protection. BUT, if you feel threatened at any time, you are allowed to use commiserate force to protect yourself. So, night or day, you can use deadly force to protect yourself if you have a sufficient threat against yourself. This issue that I'm referring to is your assertion that you can use deadly force to protect your property in daylight hours when no other threat from the actor is present. That is not the way the law reads. If someone is stealing your hubcaps in the driveway in the daytime, you are not authorized to use deadly force if that is all he's doing. If he then gets up and runs at you with a weapon, blast away. If someone breaks into your house ("occupied dwelling") at any time, blast away. The key words to remember in cases like this are "I thought I saw a gun". Doesn't matter if that's a bald-faced lie or not; nobody can dispute what you thought you saw.
But this is Texas....they don't normally make a big deal out of people blowing away thieves.
I don't normally get into long-winded debates here, but I don't want someone to think that you can AUTOMATICALLY use deadly force during daylight hours to purely defend property. You have to have another (easily made up) excuse to do so.
 
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