How to determine if price is good?

oldsquaw76

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I'm a first time boat buyer and I'm having a hard time deciding if the price of a boat is to high or right where it should be. Is there any guides on the net that i can go buy?

Thanks!
 

gcboat

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Re: How to determine if price is good?

The NADA guides will give you a very basic monetary figure of worth. I personally don't like them or use them but for someone who needs a starting point it's pretty much all you've got.
Take a cruise through ebay, just maybe you might find something there.
Without any info from you it's pretty hard for someone to give you a number.
 

nightstalker

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Re: How to determine if price is good?

I'm a first time boat buyer and I'm having a hard time deciding if the price of a boat is to high or right where it should be. Is there any guides on the net that i can go buy?

Thanks!

Lot's of boats for sale right now. Big seller inventories equates to lower selling prices. You can check out NADA but that's only a guide and is usually much higher than what a vessel actually sells for. Check out the Iboats classified section for vessels like what you are looking at as well as the asking price. Remember, buyers can't get a loan from the bank, the economy has limited the residual cash that individuals have for purchasing a vessel, and the uncertain economy limits families from taking on additional purchases. I went to a local marina last Sat. to talk to a salesperson about a 3 year old boat they had for sale. After listening to is BS about the low cost of fuel, I asked him how much financing he could get me. When he admitted that he could only get about 30% on this particular vessel, I offered him 40% below the NADA value. The negotiations are still going on with the dealer offering a deal which is about 25% NADA. It doesn't matter if you are negotiating with a dealer or a private seller, start low and go even lower. It's not about the value of the vessel, it's about finding a buyer who has any cash to spare on a boat.
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RotaryRacer

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Re: How to determine if price is good?

Ask questions here. Ask about what type of boat will fit your needs and discuss what you will find for the budget that you have.

I can't say you will get an answer on every boat you look at but we are here and willing to help you understand what a boat is worth....more importantly we are willing to help you determine what boat is right for you.
 

kaferhaus

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Re: How to determine if price is good?

First, take your time! Dont' rush into anything There are a zillion boats on the market right now and it's only going to get "better" from a buyers viewpoint.

Second determne what kind of boat you want.

Third determine a budget of what you can afford.

refer to number one!

It's not likely you'll find a "deal" at the asking price... this is why so many guys pay to much. you have to be willing to bargain with the seller. If you don't have the stomach for that (most people don't) then you may still find a decent buy but it won't be near what you could have bought either that or a similar boat for.

I look for ads that say "must sell", price negotiable, need cash etc etc.

Look in the paper, craigslist, ebay etc and look for boats that have been relisted several times or stay in the paper for weeks on end.

When you call the very first question to ask the seller is if the boat is Paid off! 90% of the time if he owes money on the boat he's not a good prospect for you. Next question is how much does he owe? Most of the time he's upside down in the boat. chances are that he'll let it be repo-d before selling it at much under what he owes... move on, don't even waste your time going to look at it.

If the seller has title in hand, needs cash due to a job loss etc then depending on how long he's been trying to sell it he may be a candidate for getting a "deal".

And in my opinion unless you need a hobby.... do not even consider buying a "project boat". Now is not the time.... as too many ready to go boats can be had for much less than you'd end up spending on even a "minor" project boat, never mind your labor.

The deals are out there but most sellers are not just going to roll over... you have to be selective and make the low ball offers.

If you decide to bid on a Ebay boat, you'd be well served to follow this bit of advice. communicate with the seller prior to bidding and inform the seller that you intend to bid on the boat BUT you will not send the seller a penny until you inspect the boat or have your rep inspect it. Obviously you need to set a reasonable time frame for the inspection as in no more than a few days after the end of the auction. Most honest sellers will agree to this.

That paid off for me recently.... I bid 60,100 on a boat that was in south florida. I communicated with the seller at least a dozen times during the auction via email and phone... The boat was part of an estate sale (was his dad's). After some research I found that Pursuit sometimes would install the generator where the fish box was supposed to be.... I didn't want that and asked specifically if the fish box was "intact". The seller told me he didn't know as even though it was his dad's boat he'd never been on it and asked that I call the dealer who sold him the boat and had done all the service.

So I did just that. the service manager called me back after "checking their records" and told me that the fish box was still there and that the generator had been installed in the alternate location under the helm.

So, won the auction (shocked at the price still) and along with my brother we drove the 700 miles to get the boat.... low and behold when I opened the under deck fish box there sat the generator!!! We asked to be taken back to the rental car place.... just before getting there the seller asked "if I reduce the price by 5,000 will that make this issue go away? I was within a few seconds of telling him I'd take the boat anyway (because I had stolen it in the first place....) So I saved an additional 5 grand....

More than made up for the nasty trip across the gulf of mexico!
 
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