How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

cbntmkr

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Hey people,<br />I bought a used 85 Baja fish/ski boat and the previous owners have painted the top odf the boat with a silver pearl paint c/w black hull. I would like to returnt the boat to it's original large metal flake blue. What is the best way to do this? Paint over the silver or strip the silver? I already tried stripping with standard paint strippers but it seamed to cut into the gel coat and pitted the finish. If a can get the paint off what can I use to bring up the original color and shine? <br />I think that when they painted the boat they may have filled in some spots with filler or putty, if this is the case I may only be able to paint over yet again. <br />Suggestions?
 

epresutti

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

Scooter,<br /><br />I asked this question recently and was directed to the Pettit products. If you are talking about paint and not GelCoat go to <br /><br /> http://www.pettitpaint.com <br /><br />They have multiple products which can be used over existing paints with proper prep.<br /><br />I am using the easypoxy over the Pettit undercoat after sanding with at least 80 grit. Some of my hull has bare glass and some has gelcoat.<br /><br />I have also used the Interlux products which are similar. http://us.yachtpaint.com/USA <br /><br />Hope this helps.<br /><br />Safe boating to all.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />emp.
 

dymo

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

I would say just to sand the existing paint down to a dull finish and paint over top. The Pettit paints cover very nicely as I used them when I refurbished my own boat and only finished last weekend. It's completely painted with Pettit paint and I'm pleased with the results. This boat was painted with a roller and tipped off with a brush (if you choose to go that way). If you want, there's a link at the bottom of my post that will bring you to a photo album of my boat from start to finish. Good luck.<br /><br />
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RiL

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

Dymo,<br />I would like to talk with you on how you striped and finished your boat.<br />I am a new old boat owner and I need to do a few of the things you did.<br />The gellcoat is old and alot of fiberglass shows. It needs to be sanded, fiberglass spot patched(dings no holes), primed and painted. This is a tri hull and no cabin. <br />What grit sandpaper did you use?<br />How hard is it to use the fiberglass repair kits?<br />What type paint and what problems did you have painting it?<br />Last, how did you get your boat up on your braces and still move your trailer out?<br />Thanks,<br />Rick
 

dymo

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

Rick,<br /><br />I had to scrape the bottom with a paint scraper (few layers of old paint), washed it down with acetone and then sanded it down with 150 grit. Then I washed it down with acetone once again and applied Pettit's Polypoxy. My boat doesn't see salt water and is trailered so I didn't need an antifouling paint. I applied 2 coats and it didn't require sanding between coats. I chose Pettit's Polypoxy paint for the bottom cause there were some very minor stress cracks and the boat is 30 years old. Figured I'd might as well seal it right off.<br /><br />The reason behind washing it down before sanding is so you don't end up embedding any foreign material into that paint while sanding.<br /><br />The Burgundy and white top paint are Pettit's Easypoxy. It covers extremely well and is very forgiving. I applied 2 coats of each and this paint has to be sanded between coats.<br /><br />First I washed down the surfaces with acetone, sanded with 150 grit, removed the dust and then sanded with 220 grit. Between coats I used 220 grit and found it wasn't necessary to wetsand as long as I didn't go through the first coat. Sanded down to a dull finish, washed the surface and applied the 2nd coat.<br /><br />For my project I applied all paints with a short nap roller and tipped it off with a good quality brush. Rolled on the paint vertically and tipped it off horizontally. I was pretty impressed with the quality of the finish considering it wasn't sprayed on and I'm no pro. Like I said before, this paint is very forgiving and covers very well.<br /><br />I had quite a bit of fiberglass work to do on the floor so a fiberglass kit was out of the question. I bought a few yards of fiberglass cloth and a bunch of cans of resin. At first it was a bit sloppy but after applying enough resin and cloth, getting that sticky stuff on your hands and clothes, you get pretty good at it. Just follow the instructions on the can.<br /><br />For those minor dings you mentioned, I used 3M's Marine Premium Filler. Easy to mix, sand and paint over. I have to admit that I didn't use any primer on my boat. I might regret this later but the paint covered over with the first coat. If it wasn't for durability, I could have got away with only one coat. That's how well it covered.<br /><br />Now for getting the boat off of the trailer. I got the idea from a website which unfortunately I can't find now.<br /><br />As you can see in my pics, I made my own boat stands. They might be a bit overkilled for my boat but I figured if I was going to work under 1700lbs, I wanted it to be secure. Now you ask, how did I get it off of the trailer?<br /><br />Lower the tongue of your trailer onto the ground. (make sure you can get a floor jack under it). <br /><br />You want your stands to fit snuggly under the rear corners at the transom. When you jack the tongue up now, the rear of your boat will rest on your stands and of course the trailer will stay on the ground. As you jack it up, you'll also want to place cinder blocks in the middle forward section of the hull (just incase the floor jack were to let go on you). You'll want to jack the tongue as high as you can.<br /><br />Now with the tongue raised as high as it will go, you'll want build up the cinder blocks with a piece of wood on top of them under the middle section of the hull. Now lower the floor jack. Your boat is now resting on the rear stands and the cinder blocks.<br /><br />Make another pile of blocks behind the first pile, put a piece of plywood on top of the blocks, now the floor jack and a block of wood on the jack. You want to jack the nose of the boat until it's level with the stern. Once you've done this, build up your first pile to support the now level bow of the boat. Now remove your blocks that the jack was on.<br /><br />I hope I'm being clear. If not, stop me at any time :) <br /><br />OK, if you can imagine this in your mind. The stern of the boat is supported by your stands and the bow(hull)is supported level on the cinder blocks. At this point your trailer should be free to roll out from under your boat. Yup, you guessed it, those darn crossmembers are in the way now.<br /><br />Ok, now roll your trailer forward until the first crossmember comes to rest at your pile of blocks supporting the bow in the center. Now build up that pile of blocks again with the jack on top right behind your crossmember.Jack the boat until you can take down the first pile of blocks. Roll your trailer forward until the next crossmember comes to rest at the jack. Repile your fisrt blocks at the same spot as they were originally. Once that pile is back up and supporting the bow, remove the jack and the blocks supporting it. Roll your trailer forward until the next crossmember and so on. All you're doing is using the two piles of blocks and the jack to support the boat so you can get the crossmembers past them. Your piles are always in the same place, just supporting your boat on opposite sides of the crossmembers. <br /><br />Oh yeah, once you get the trailer out, you'll have to put some stands in at the bow of your boat. I also left a pile of blocks in place to support the middle of the hull.<br /><br />Took me about an hour and fifteen minutes to get my boat off of the trailer using this method.<br /><br />I hope this helps. If I've left you totally confused, let me know and I'll try and clarify those grey areas. <br /><br />If you go to the link where my pics are at the bottom of this post, you can see what my stands look like.<br /><br />Good Luck,<br /><br />Dymo
 

deedubya

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

dymo,<br /><br />can't say how much I enjoyed the slide show you posted on your project boat! Aside from the fact that project was pretty cool, I've always intended to do the whole "before/during/after" snapshot thing, and I never seem to get around to it while I'm doing all the work, to my great regret. <br />Don't know how many more big projects I have left in me, buy maybe seeing the results of your job in motion will be the motivation I need next time, thanks,
 

epresutti

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

DYMO,<br /><br />Great Job (saw your site), will be using some of your advice. Was there a reason you didn't use foam rollers and brushes?<br /><br />BTW. Walmart box of 100 Latex sterile gloves (used for medical exams) about $7 work great when using epoxy, ascetone, etc. DON'T USE VINYL, ASCETONE EATS RIGHT THROUGH THEM (sorry about the shouting)! I have gone through over 100 pair of the laytex gloves during my rebuild. Learned the hard way about the vinyl while I was cleaning a roller and noticed the "skin" falling off my hands from the ascetone, fortunately it was just the vinyl gloves :) <br /><br />Safe boating to all.<br /><br />Cheers.<br /><br />emp.
 

RiL

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

Thanks Dymo,<br />Does the acetone melt the fiberglass? Do you just wipe or paint it on when cleaning. My Project is a 1970 tri hull that I got for $150. I just could not say no. I need to replace the seats, would like to put in a live well to start with.<br />Thanks again,<br />Rick
 

dymo

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

The roller I used was a short nap foam roller. I tried the foam brush but instead of spreading the paint smoothly, it had a tendency to skip on the paint. The foam brush left more marks. If you go to a mrine store, look at the brushes. You'll see that the bristles for marine painting are chiseled back more than an ordinary paint brush. In a store here, I could have spent anywhere fom $6.00 - $46.00 on a brush.<br /><br />As far as the acetone was concerned, no it won't melt the fiberglass. I would suggest washing down the entire surface with water to remove the heavy dust first. Pour the acetone into a pump spray bottle. Spray the acetone in a small area as it dries very quickly and wipe it off. I bought a few rolls of shop towels to do the wipe down the surface. Don't skimp on the towels or rags. You want to remove all contamenents. Turn your rags frequently.<br /><br />Don't make the same mistake as many do. People have a tendency of leaving the acetone in the can and pouring it onto the rag. This is fine but why not you ask. We pour the acetone onto the rag, then we place the rag over top of the can and tilt it back up so there is no spillage. By doing so, you're letting the contamenents already on your rag right into the can. Now what you're wiping off of the surface is mixed in the can with the product you're using to clean it.<br /><br />Hope this helps.<br /><br />Dymo
 

ratherbefishin

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Re: How to strip paint off of existing fibreglass?

check out www.napierenvironmental for the easiest way to strip epoxy based paints.Water based,non toxic, no fumes and won't burn skin.ICI markets it under the ''HydroStrip'' label. Sure beats sanding, I can tell you
 
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