Hull up restoration

dj shriver

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This is the first boat I've attempted to restore. I am an auto-mechanic by trade, 1986
Bayliner Bow-Rider Capri I beleive it's a 19 ft. I've about gutted the whole inside and deck. I have no idea of where to go when the inside is completely cleaned out. Any help for the newbie would be greatlly appreciated. Also it is the volvo penta2.3 if it matters.
 

saltwaterbluefish

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Re: Hull up restoration

Pictures would help a bunch. I would check the stringers and make sure they are still in good shape. if they are good all you need is to buy some plywood. coat it with resin then either fiberglass or screw it down if you have crossframes. if using screws make sure you epoxy or put 5200 in each hole to seal out water. I actually countersink and screw, then epoxy, and put a layer of fiberglass. This is really just the very basic information. Perform a search and it will provide you much more information. Plus specific questions and pictures are always welcomed.
 

dj shriver

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Re: Hull up restoration

I will try to get some pictures posted on here today. I'm assuming you mean fiberglass resin. What plywood, what resin, and what is 5200. I know pictures will help alot on explaining what's all going on. As far as a search I'm finding alot of info on repairing but not on replacing the whole deck. I will post some pics.
 

saltwaterbluefish

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Re: Hull up restoration

well to prevent starting a war i say resin which includes; epoxy, polyester, and vinylester. I am a fan of epoxy, but it does cost more and alot of people say you can use just polyester. US composites is the most referenced place on this site. Also US composites has a nice information section on what the product can be used for along with cure times. Make sure you do not get the bondo stuff from Walmart because it is not in the same class.

Plywood is another debate, there is marine plywood, ac grade exterior plywood, pressure treated plywood (stuff you get at lowes and home depot that is soaked with water), and KD or kiln dried pressure treated plywood (dried to 18% moisture content, glass will not stick to wet wood which is why pressure treated often fails). I used the KD, but it is a little harder to find. If you don't want to use wood you can also use bluewater 26, which is a fiberglass composite board. MUCH more expensive, but it will never rot. Make sure you try and put back the same thickness that you had.

3M 5200 is basically a marine adhesive that also provides waterproof protection. It is messy stuff to work with though. I prefer to epoxy the holes, but as you will find out from searching there are atlest five options to solve the same problem.

The deck is not as bad as a stringer depending on the layout. If the stringers are good I would start by making cardboard layouts of the deck so you do not mess up a cut on the plywood. Once you get the plywood cut dry fit to make sure everything goes together. Once you do that you have a few options. 1) if you have crossframes (wood frame that sits perpendicular and on top of the stringer, i would screw the plywood in to that. 2) if you don't I would put a little adhesive ontop of the stringer, sit the plywood down, and then put strips of fiberglass that run on both the boat side and down on the deck. If you have any seams I would mix some epoxy and silica to a peanut butter viscosity and put it in the seams, although there are some specific marine products that will do the same thing. For myself I would put a layer of fiberglass on top to connect all the pieces. From here you can put vinyl, carpet (don't recommend because of moisture), or if you have done a good job glassing just put some non-skid paint down with primer.

I am sure you will get other people commenting on the way to go and remember my way may not work in your situation. I am still learning about different ways so get a few comments before proceeding.

A few words of caution. Do not screw into the stringer because water will find its way in. That is why the crossframes are the first thing to rot out. Next, buy a really good respirator because fiberglass dust is nothing to play with. Resin will start turning into a gel if you are in a colder climate around 20-30 minutes, so make sure you are ready to go with everything.
 

archbuilder

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Re: Hull up restoration

I used a composite material called seacast to replace my stringer and transom. I would recommend replacing them while you have the deck out unless they are in really good shape. Seacast is great stuff but pricey, I plan on keeping this boat for a long time, so I spent the bucks on it. A lot of people just replace them with wood and have great results.

As Saltwaterbluefish noted keeping water out is key regardless of what method you use. Always keep that in mind when you are putting things back together.

I used poly on mine, its cheaper and works great as long as you prep the surface correctly, it must be clean (wiped down with acetone, and ground with at 24 or 36 grit to give it tooth). Its what your hull is made out of, so why not repair it with it? One note on epoxy / poly, poly won't stick to epoxy....but epoxy will stick to poly. I used epoxy (west systems 6-ten) to glue my deck to my stringers / hull...worked great. As for the stringer layout, copy what the factory did. Here is a link to a good poly supplier, this is a pretty handy cheat sheet for poly.

http://www.fiberglasssite.com/servlet/the-68/Fiberglass-Information%2C-and-How/Detail

I bought all my poly from them since I couldn't find a good supplier locally. Pay attention to the part where they talk about finishing resin (waxed) and laminating resin (unwaxed). For what you are doing you will want unwaxed 95% of the time. Most of the Home Depot / Autozone resins are waxed, meaning you have to wipe them down and sand between layers. You don't have to do all that work with the unwaxed resin. As for decking, I used marine plywood. It is easy to work with and a higher grade than most of the stuff you find at homedepot. A lot of people just use exterior grade plywood, which is cheaper. I have all of my build posted in the link in my signature, it might help you out. Let us know if you have questions, and pics are a great help!
 
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