I feel bad for Rush

SoulWinner · Oct 10, 2003

I feel bad for anyone who allows themselves to get addicted to drugs. I feel bad for Rush, and he is, as he has long been, in my prayors. The type drugs he is addicted to are powerful opiates, much lik heroine. His withdrawal will torturous, physically and mentally. I wish him the very best, a speedy recovery, many blessings.

bubbakat · Oct 10, 2003

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soulwinner I to am going to say a prayer for him have always liked his comments May not always agreed with him but i do like his way with words

Homerr · Oct 10, 2003

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I heard his confession today. Sad. I hope he gets the help he needs. What pisses me off is the media running amok with the whole thing. Sure, he has problems. That just shows he's normal like everyone else, but you don't have to ruin the guy because of it. He admitted his addiction. That's a huge step forward. Same thing with the Kobe Bryant thing...Whether he's innocent or not, the guy is toast and his career ruined. H.

BLU LUNCH · Oct 10, 2003

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Rush should be bashed. Why not? He's make a career doin' it to others Pay back is a *itch!!!! Rush made the comment in 95' about students caught with $50.00 or more of drugs should have there student loans cut off. And he's made many anti-drug comments. Let's hold him to his word....or is he above that?

12Footer · Oct 10, 2003

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Drugs in the werkplace....Zero tolerance period. I allmost lost a daughter at the hands of a man who "loved her',(Billy) who was wired on perscription pain meds, Ironically, He just got out of prison today, after only 60days or therabouts. My fear is that he will go back to the drugs. It is, after all, an addiction, and they can be brutally tough to stop using. For example, I smoked cigs for 38 years, and tried to quit more times than I can count. I've been away from cigs for a tad over 2 years. My bro had quit cigs for 11years, and started smoking last thanksgiving.The only person my addiction debilitated was me. So any other addictive subtance is far worse. I was wired on speed as a young man. I quit by removing the accesability to the supply, and by drinking massive quanities of coffee,which I'm still addicted to. If I don't drink coffee, I get screamer headaches, and dexidrine would be irresistable. My point is that Mr Limbaugh, or any other human being can go back to using at any time,without warning, and the downward spiral starts all over again. Drugs are bad, nkay. My heart goes out to him for facing the demon head-on, but be waited until he collided with the demon before he sought help. My prediction is that he will quit for a short time,and in less than a year, the demon will once again claim him. Samey-same is possible for my broher, my "POS son-in-law", who now claims he is clean, and me, with my little closet full of future nightmares. I pray for Rush , my brother, Billy ,and anyone with the courage to try. But my respect for Rush is now gone. He is an extremely smart man, with no tolerence for pain. I speak from experiance with the herniated discs, pinned right leg, ankle ligiments made of scar tissue, and an impacted knee with plastic shrapnel in it. Pain draws vacuum. It hurts so bad to just get on my feet every morning, I often lay there till noon on saturdays. But there are no wonder drugs. They all come with more than a monetary price to pay.

Homerr · Oct 10, 2003

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Here here 12Footer. Excellent point. However...life is too short to live in pain. Some pain is good, but to live in agony every day just isn't worth it. If you are responsible with pain meds...Fine. Use them if they help. I too have nasty arthritis setting in my foot I broke a while back. Nothing the Dr. can do except fuse it all together. I won't do that until I absolutely cannot walk. I might take a pin med every few days, but nothing more. Most of the time Ibuprofen works just as good. Staying off my feet works best, but doesn't get my paycheck or things around the house done! I'm not defending Rush by no means. He's facing his problem. We'll see what happens. You have to admit though...It took guts to admit it on national radio. Could you do that? H.

Ralph 123 · Oct 10, 2003

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Well I am going to defend him and repeat my post from the other Rush thread.

As far as I am concerend he didn't screw up. The medical profession failed him as it fails so many when it comes to pain. The guy had spinal surgery. He is still in pain. He became "addicted" to the pain relief. Rehabs probably not going to work because as soon as the pain relief is withdrawn he is going to be back in pain. Right now he probably forgets how bad it really is. When it comes back in its full glory, he is going to have to decide if he can live with it or not. If he can't back on the relief either received from a doctor or the street or a long dirt nap. It is unfortunate that the medical profession and the government forces people to become criminals becuase of the obsession with drugs. They force people to live lives not worth living. If you have never lived with severe pain you can not possibly understand. Hopefully, you will never know the truth from first hand experience.

12 I love ya, but comparing Rush to someone who abuses opiates for kicks fuels the anti-drug zealotry that causes the problem I mentione above. There is no nobility in suffering. Just becuase you can live with your pain does not mean he can live with his and do what he does for a living. With proper MEDICAL assistance you could live a much better, happier, more productive life. Your suffering does nobody any good.

Skinnywater · Oct 10, 2003

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I really like Rush also and I understand his pain and addiction. I wish the best for him. However, Rush has always preached working within the system. As well as pointing out constantly that we are a nation of laws. Rush is more then capable of working with several doctors to help him with his pain and addiction. I'll not buy the arguement that the medical profession let him down. You have to work within the medical profession to get the help you need. To continuely accept addiction is a copout, lazy and in this case illegal. Rush is still OK with me. Especially since this hasn't anything to do with his logical conservative message.

Ralph 123 · Oct 10, 2003

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You're assuming the pain is gone. According to his statement, it isn't. Therefore, when the pain returns, so will the desire to relieve it. The system let him down because it drove him to the underground to control his pain.

FLATHEAD · Oct 11, 2003

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"There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." The above words were spoken by Rush on his radio show. I say let the media have a field day. What goes around comes around. A taste of what he does for a living if you will. Don't get me wrong I am no liberal and I agree with a lot of what Rush says but I never really liked his pompous know it all way. "And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up." Careful what you wish for Rush. I have seen how bad it is to be addicted to drugs. It affects the lives of everyone close to the addict. It is not a pretty thing. Maybe Rush wont be so fast to run his mouth and judge others after this fiasco.

Ralph 123 · Oct 11, 2003

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I think in his mind there is a distinction between taking drugs for recreation and taking them for a legitimate medical purpose. I have heard no claim that he was taking pain killers for kicks - but maybe he was. I heard the house doc on Fox say, in his opinion, pain killers are under perscribed and people are suffering needlessly. There is no nobility in suffering. There will likely be thousands of people who will now suffer, I mean really suffer, over this. Docs, already reluctant to prescribe pain killers will be even more reluctant now. Although I never really listened to Rush much, I am starting to really dislike him for the suffering this is going to cause truly sick people.

Columbia · Oct 11, 2003

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The problem with all this sympathy for Rush Limbaugh is that he didn't just corrupt himself, he corrupted his housekeeper and anyone else who bought drugs for him. And by buying illicit drugs he actively supported drug dealers, among the very folks he harpooned daily. Those same drug dealers he supported are corrupting someone's children even as Rush has been outed. Rush is not only an addict, he's a colossal hypocrite and a liar. He has corrupted others with his habit and lied consistently and horribly to his listeners. That's the way of addicts everywhere. He has lived by the sword of abuse and belittlement and should die by the same sword. I have less than zero sympathy for him. He should get ten years in prison with no parole.

neumanns · Oct 11, 2003

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Rush was prescribed them yes but he continued to seek them out beyond the physicians recomendation. These are powerful drugs that is why we entrust them to profesionals, had he followed the Dr. recomendation there would have been no investigation. Hence the moniker "addicted". I understand some compasion but I dont understand all this pitty for him, he did it to himself. In my opinion he would have never faced this had he not been "called out" and is only doing so to see if he can save same audience. Is this the thing to do(rehab), Yes. Is this a reason to do it, No. What he is doing is a calculated move to try and save his career by making one problem disapear (racial comments) by addressing another problem that overshadows. The problem is his motives are not pure. And this coming from someone who liked him as a person and enjoyed his observations weather or not I agreed with them.

Ralph 123 · Oct 11, 2003

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OS - His housekeeper served 5 years for cocaine trafficking so who corrupted whom? Who knows what the situation was with his doctor or what Rush was thinking? Pain is the most poweful motivator there is. Let me tell you something about these so called "professionals:" Doctors every year allow people to take their own lives due to pain rather than provide true help. This I know for a cold, hard fact. Do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes. If he started taking pain killers for kicks, the way most people drink, that would be one thing, but this guy took them afer spinal surgery for heaven's sake!

BrianFD · Oct 11, 2003

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And I still stand by my last post on that other thread:

Well ain't that JUST LIKE a right-wing conservative to not take responsibility for their own actions and blame the health-care industry. With that same logic, Ralph, then alcoholics, crackheads and sex addicts are all not responsible for their own actions?! Get real! It's a wonder you right-wingers aren't somehow blaming this on Clinton...

BrianFD · Oct 11, 2003

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But before that, I posted this:

I'm curious to see all the Rush supporters now that he's admitted himself into detox and has taken himself off the air. Personally, I think it takes a lot of guts to admit on national radio that he screwed up and is seeking professional help. That doesn't mean I like him any better (I still think he's an egotistical Clinton-(over)basher), but it does show he's human after all. Any comments? Or is this 'hallowed ground'?

neumanns · Oct 11, 2003

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Do not judge a man until you have walked a mile in his shoes.

I am starting to really dislike him for the suffering this is going to cause truly sick people.

Sounds like a judjment to me. May I also ad that if his pain was so legitamate why did he not get them through his own doctor, or switch doctors. My wife sees people everyday who claim the pain is unmanagable, there are people with legitamate pain and then there are the "Drug seekers". The drug seekers are usually pretty easy to spot. They have asked so often that they become accustomed to only saying what what got them the drug last time. They completly forget the other symptoms that initialy got them the drug. This was not the case, he got them underground because he could no longer convince his doctor that he needed them. Another thing to add is prescription drugs are only legal if you have the prescription. Outside of the prescription they are Illegal. This brings us back to your "dont judge" does this only apply if you think he was right. Sounds as if you have judged him innocent bystander rather than an active participant in the taking of Illegal drugs.

Skinnywater · Oct 11, 2003

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Well BrianFD you got your exchange, just not in the way you expected (or hoping for). i.e., You were not flamed and the support for Rush isn't even close to universal even with in conservative ranks. neumanns, you were right on as usual.

SeaMasterZ@aol.com · Oct 11, 2003

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back in the 80's, I was crushed under a load of tuna, two vertebrae cracked - the pain of the broken bones are only the tip of the iceberg, you see the human body is a wonder of evolutionary science, it knows the bones are broken and in its quest for homeostasis will actively, dynamically attempt to protect and support the injured area Unfortunately, it does so by chronically tightening the peripheral musculature surrounding the injury. If you have ever had a "charly horse" in your leg, imagine that pain in your back. ALL THE TIME

can you even begin to comprehend that? This is essentially the pain Rush feels. For those who do not know this pain, I politely implore you to shut your f88king pie hole, you know NOTHING about what he is going thru, and to dare compare a man who has remained working, and who is a viable and valuable daily contributor to the intellectual as well as the financial growth of this contry, to some sleazy crackhead that goes out and kills little kids for the 10 dollar pair of Keds the kid is wearing, for nothing more than the chance to score a little drug money, to escape nothing more than thier own laziness and self perpetuating "oppression"

Anyone that holds that opinion should be horsewhipped to within an inch of their lives, this is nothing more that a cheap chance to slam the one man with the guts and determination to lift himself out of the malaise that accompanies pain, dont you think he could go on an extended pity party? Sure he could, instead he addressed the problem, PAIN and kept going. Rush is a high level celebrity ... Remember Elvis? if he went thru proper channels, he would have all the media attention he now has anyway, clearly he was trying to micromanage his own situation and lets be perfectly clear about this, there is a vast difference between MEDICINE and DRUGS, Rush was taking MEDICICE for PAIN, get that, can you make the distinction between someone booting heroin to escape reality, to escape the responsibility of contributing to society and the idea of bettering yourself, and someone treating pain to remain a contributing member of society and if you bothered to read all of what he said, it was clearly a slam against the media, ask any Eagle fan about how well McNabb has performed over the years, for years my dad had ranted and raved at what a lousy quarterback he is, as usual Rush is right BUT BUT BUT As USUAL whenever a WHITE MAN says something negative about a BLACK MAN, despite the inherent truth of said statement, and regardless of the intent of the statement (again, he was commenting on the MEDIA, not the content of McNabb's character) the liberal press and all the "BLACKTIVISTS" (Jackson, Sharpton, Lee, the usual assortment of rabble rousing sh!tbags) leap to their assorted soapboxes, spouting the usual inflammatory "de ol white debbil" crap Leave the man ALONE

Ralph 123 · Oct 11, 2003

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If you heard Rush's statement he took responsibility. Plain and simple. I am not judging him per se, but I know that people are going to suffer as a result. That's what bothers me. Who knows what the situation was with his doc? Like I said, maybe he did take them for the wrong reasons. Maybe the pain went away and by then he was addicted and screwed. Who knows? There is however a major difference in my mind between his situation and your average drug abuser who starts and ends with taking narcotics for kicks. What part of docs won't write scripts for pain killers due to the DEA and lawyers don't you get? They don't want to risk their licenses to practice should something like Rush happen. They rather let people suffer and die rather than risk their livliehood.

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