I need to make a decision

SancheAr

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:confused: Before replacing the mid section on my 1987, 200 HP Johnson outboard, I want to make sure that the power head is worth dumping $900 into. Compression is 75 PSI all around and the motor is running good. Except, the steering arm is completely rusted and needs replacing immediately. The mechanic is recommending replacing the entire mid section instead since it will be faster to repair and less expensive since we will be taking a chance if rusty bolts breaks and this may delay the repair and the repair will be much more expensive due to his labor. My concern is, that with the compression reading of 75 PSI, is it worth replacing the mid section or better to replace the whole motor? Thank you for your help.
 

OBJ

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Re: I need to make a decision

Hi Armando....<br /><br />Personnally, I would like to see compressions at least at 90psi or better. However, if all cylinder compressions are the same, I would assume the engine is in good shape....albeit may need a ring job soon. This may be a way of getting several more years outta the ol' girl. If a ring job is all that's needed, I would concider it.
 

Salty Sal

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Re: I need to make a decision

Try decarbing the engine and see if your #s get better.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: I need to make a decision

Armando..... If you're thinking about going into all that work and expense simply due to a rusted steering arm, I'd strongly suggest you take another look at that arm.<br /><br />Those steering arms do gather a great amount of what is considered surface rust, but I have yet to find one that really required replacing due to that condition.<br /><br />I have always, after inspecting a rusted arm thoroughly, chipped away at it with various punches, chisels, etc in order to remove the rust build up. After which I'd clean it with acetone, then coat it with "Green" Zink Chromate primer which is available at any marine dealership in a spray can. When the primer is thoroughly dry, I'd coat it with spray paint of whatever color is required.<br /><br />The ones I've redone as above are still running strong. Perhaps you have one that is rusted to a point that I have yet to come across, but at any rate, give the above some consideration.
 

SancheAr

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Re: I need to make a decision

The steering arm has deteriorated thin after last week I removed the surface rust away, to the point that now I can bends the tip of the arm with my hand. Unfortunately, requires removing the power head and the motor mount bolts to be able to remove the steering arm. Is there a patch way to repair the arm without replacing the steering arm?
 

G DANE

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Re: I need to make a decision

Armando<br /><br />If you are sure the steering armd is corroded and not only loose in bolts, I would get another mechanics oppinion. Dissasembly to change midsection, is more than only to remove the rod. Why not first try if the bolts are removable. I dont know the exact price of a steering arm, but i dont think it will excede 100$ You can remove a lot of rusted bolts for 800$ Not that I want to play smart here, but it sounds like shooting sparrows with a canon to replace the entire mid section.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: I need to make a decision

Armando.... If that steering arm is indeed rusted to a point whereas you can bend it, then yes, it would require replacing. I'd really like to see the condition of that arm as that would be a first for me. If you have pictures, please send them to me at my e-mail address listed below.<br /><br />You don't need to remove the powerhead. You will need to remove the lower unit to get the shift rod out of the way, then remove the two top motor mount bolts and the four bottom motor mount bolts.<br /><br />You can then remove the engine assy away from the swivel bracket and steering arm assy.
 
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