I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

mfh6980

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I have a 1987 25HP pull start Evinrude. Generally I put a new set of plugs in it every year at the start of the season and have no issues. First time out this year I went to get the plugs and they didn?t have them in stock. Headed to the lake and it ran with the old plugs without issues. Second time out (had not taken the time to get new plugs) it fired up no problem but about half way thru the day it started to sputter and died. I was in a hurry that day and used gas with ethanol that had been in my garage over the winter? I normally use ethanol free gas. I guessed ethanol poisoning so got fresh gas and installed new plugs. It will not cold start at all anymore unless I shoot fuel into the cylinders via the spark plug holes. Tuesday night while getting ready to decarb it using SeaFoam I found an obstruction in the tank end of my fuel line. It appeared to be plastic liner from inside the fuel line that broke loose. It was so bad I had to cut that part of the line off. I was stunned the engine would run at all with the obstruction. Figured I had found my problem so proceeded with the decarb. Three times of running 15 minutes, rest 15 and repeat. Running it in a 55 gallon drum. First start I had to shoot fuel in the cylinders. After the first and second 15 minute runs it started easily without needing the shot of fuel in the cylinders. Last night I got home late and went out to try a cold start. No go, nothing. I plan to install a new set of plugs and put a new fuel line on it tonight/this weekend but there has got to be another problem. This motor has just been bulletproof and since I put the bad gas thru it will no longer cold start. Runs very smooth once it is running and restarts easily once warm. Would appreciate any ideas you guys have as I am about out. Next steps I can think of is a carb and fuel pump rebuild but I have been told if they were failing the motor would not run smooth/at all. The fuel filter is clean.
 

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

I would pull the carbs and clean them. the crud from inside your fuel line has probably gunked up the carb passages.
 

mfh6980

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

Thanks. I went ahead and ordered a full pump and carb rebuild kit. I also failed to note that this is a manual prime motor. When I remove the primer hose from the nipple at the top of the carb I get a strong stream of fuel. It occured to me that something may have made it to that point and clogged the input there preventing it from priming the engine. So will check that as well. Will try and get to that this weekend weather permitting.
 

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

I would guess that the needle and seat area are plugged as well. do not forget to clean out the primer squirter.
 

mfh6980

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

OK. Cleaned and rebuilt the fuel pump and the carb. Installed a new fuel line tank to motor. Already have new gas. Installed new plugs. Nada zip. Won't even hit with the fuel in the cylinders any more. I think I have a transient ignition problem. Going to wait until it quits raining and test for spark again. I am about out of ideas. This motor ran like a top 3 weeks ago...
 

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

OK. Last night I rented a compression gauge. Compression is identical on both cylinders at 105. Started to test my spark again and it fired!!! I was not prepared for that so killed it immediately and setup to give it a test run. 50+ pulls and a sore shoulder later I gave up. I belive it has to be electrical. I just realized the new plugs they gave me were L82Cs. My old plugs were QL77JC4s. Could that be the issue? I am picking up new plugs tonight and going to give it another go. Will post the results. Thanks. Appreciate any guideance.
 

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

I would go to the CDI website and look up your engine, use their trouble shooting chart to check out your ignition system, at least that would eliminate a defective ignition system.
 

mfh6980

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Re: I?ve pulled till I can?t pull no more!!!

Installed the new plugs and it hit on the first pull. Ran rough however. I think that was the problem all along. It just does not like any plug other than the QL77JC4.
 
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