I want to replace the transom?

[1970kayhydro]

Any ideas or tips? The clamps were needing to be tightened again. I want to replace that and put a 350 in it like I/O and see if it will go 90+!! Ha Ha, but the peice of wood that has that crack by it, yeah fix that. My first boat... Learned to drive one at 12 yrs old. Water sking at 14 just never got one and when i did it sat in the barn for 6 years But I like it...

 

[jcsercsa]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

Any ideas or tips? The clamps were needing to be tightened again. I want to replace that and put a 350 in it like I/O and see if it will go 90+!! Ha Ha, but the peice of wood that has that crack by it, yeah fix that. My first boat... Learned to drive one at 12 yrs old. Water sking at 14 just never got one and when i did it sat in the barn for 6 years But I like it...

Hi there 1970kayhydro and welcome !! I am just down the road from yea , Burton !! just off Belsay and 69

well it sound like you need to replace the transom, I couldnt tell what size she is , but if you got to do the transom you should think about the stringers, then you have a new boat !! hahah

You can do just about anything here , there are some of the greatest people on the plant here !!

I was out wed and there was a guy that had a 10 foot hydro think he said he had a 25 on there , it was a sweet ride !!

can you post some pics of her and we can go from there
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And again welcome !! John

 

[1970kayhydro]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

Umm no stringers. It's a hydro plane.

 

[tashasdaddy]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

you are nuts, it would never handle the weight. there are plenty of thread on transom replacement.

 

[1970kayhydro]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

That was a joke about the I/O thing. I don't want to remove the deck of the boat. Could I just cut the very back of the boat off, like just the fiberglass. Then get the wood transom out, do the repair to the bottom piece of wood that is seperating. Then put a new transom with some triangle braces that go to the floor, glass it all in good. Day or two job?

 

[1970kayhydro]

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It's hard to see in pictures, but I think that the wood core is crushing under the clamps. Theres no flex in it, yet. Its not normal for this to happen is it?

Here is the photo bucket link with more, if interested.
http://s396.photobucket.com/albums/pp46/crizzo_photos/

 

[tashasdaddy]

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please edit and resize your big picture, we are not going to scan left and right to read your post. the big pictures make the post wider than the computer screen.

 

[1970kayhydro]

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Is that better? I think its just the ones taken with the camera, these are from my phone.

 

[oops!]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

That was a joke about the I/O thing. I don't want to remove the deck of the boat. Could I just cut the very back of the boat off, like just the fiberglass. Then get the wood transom out, do the repair to the bottom piece of wood that is seperating. Then put a new transom with some triangle braces that go to the floor, glass it all in good. Day or two job?

no....sorry you cant...or at least i wouldnt.....

taking the cap off is the easyest way....and on that boat...its done by one guy in a hour or two.....i would also re glass that puppy (the inner hull) when its off....if you dont take it off you will make a very simple job (on that boat) a very difficult one.

once the cap is off.....take ALL the old wood out and make a new one.

with the size of the boat (as ive allready stated)....you can be done every thing in 3 or 4 days.

and a 350 is just nonsence for that vessel.....go at least 505 or forget it

 

[1970kayhydro]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

Iv'e looked inside and there really isn't a seam between the top and bottom. Im going to be taking the rub rail off, maybe I will see something there. Iv'e read just about every thread on resto, transom rebuild and glass repair. I see how it would be easer to get to the floor and transom im just worried about getting the deck back on properly. It looks like i would have to cut it off with a sawzall or something? With the transom off i could get to all the wood through the back and seating area pretty easly. Iv'e started sanding the deck and when the weather makes up my mind im going to pull the motor and all the hardware off of it and then flip it and do the bottom. I will get some pictures of it striped down and deceide on how far I need to go.

 

[oops!]

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the seam is under the rub rail......the rail is uasually fastened with rivets.....drill them out with a 3/8s drill bit.......there is two types of hull/cap joint.....one is a flange joint.....uasually backed up with a layer of glass over the joint on the inside.....

the second type of joint is called the shoe box....it is the most common....and the easyest to manipulate......from the pics i saw of your boats inside....i think you have this type.

dont be afaraid of taking the cap off......its done all the time on restorations and repairs

 

[1970kayhydro]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

The rub rail is rivited on and im going to take it off. So I should I be able to tell then? How would I go about putting it back on? The front of the boat isn't really very easy to get to on the inside. Its only about 2" high in the front, there is no more that 2' anywhere inside it. Note im 6' 4" and 190 so I don't fit very well. When I replaced that bolt in the very back I climbed back there and put epoxy in the seam and put a new bolt in. While doing so I cut my elbow and hands up pretty good. I did it when nobody was around so i wouldn't see myself on some funny videos thing.

 

[oops!]

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I did it when nobody was around so i wouldn't see myself on some funny videos thing.

i saw the pics of the inside of the craft on the other boat..... a little kid would have a hard time in there.......

thats one reason to pull the cap.
plus that .....i would really consider putting a full layer of 1708 over the entire inside of the hull......after the cap is off.....rough and scuffing the old glass is easy and the glassing process will only take an hour at best.

when the alum extrusion part of the rub rail comes off.....i think you will find a shoe box joint.......
the shoe box joint will be evident, and self explainatory.....

the flange joint is the cap just sitting on the hull....there will be a layer of glass around the inner seam......but because of limited acess to the inside....i would be absolutly shocked if the manns used that process on that craft.

the boat is sooo small....it will take only one person to lift the cap off. after its off the transom will be right there and you can get it easy.....only an hour or two of grinding/chiseling before its out.....

my fav tool for that job....is a 5 inch grinder with a 7 inch rubber flapper disc on it....and a 24 grit sand paper...(actually a resin paper)

that tool will also make it really easy to ruff and scuff the inner hull.....only a half hour or so to scuff the entire hull.......then vaccume the hull....aceitone it.......and start the transom installation.....after its in....then add the entire 1708 wrap over the whoile thing....including the transom......it will be solid as a rock....and safe.........

but your girl still might not want to ride in it

 

[1970kayhydro]

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Can you give me some links to where to find this stuff? I have never done anything like this before and really have no idea what half the stuff is or where to find it. I live 15 mins out side Port Huron MI. so there are tons of boating places here. Can you tell me what wood i should pick up on the other thread? I went and priced it all. It looks like the floor is 3/4 on the bottom layer and 1/2 on the top. The front 3' has no wood and the back 7' is 35" wide on the bottom and 25" on the top 1/2 layer. I'll post a new thread once i get the rub rail off to fugure out how to get the deck off.

 

[1970kayhydro]

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Here is my sanding progress, maybe a hour of sanding.

 

[oops!]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

Can you give me some links to where to find this stuff? I have never done anything like this before and really have no idea what half the stuff is or where to find it. I live 15 mins out side Port Huron MI. so there are tons of boating places here. Can you tell me what wood i should pick up on the other thread? I went and priced it all. It looks like the floor is 3/4 on the bottom layer and 1/2 on the top. The front 3' has no wood and the back 7' is 35" wide on the bottom and 25" on the top 1/2 layer. I'll post a new thread once i get the rub rail off to fugure out how to get the deck off.

lowes....home depot....any place that sells lumber.......exterior grade plywood...not chip board....will do....they also have pt if you want....id go 1/2 inch...then laminate the layers you need for the thickness.....the floor doesnt need to be more than 1/2

 

[oops!]

Re: I want to replace the transom?

ant that is a shoe box joint...as flange joints uasually have caps on the corners

 

[1970kayhydro]

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How much do you think every thing will run me? I don't want to dump too much money in this thing. I guess my main concern is, would i be able to get my money back out of it if i deceide to sell it in a few years and get some thing more practical for me AND the family? Im pretty sure i can get it done right, they way you explaned. I only have 250.00 into it now, another 150.00 for the short shaft.