Ignition Problem

dblanton

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Can anyone help? I have a 1981 75hp Evinrude all three carb's just rebuilt, linkage and cables are correct, timing and carb's are in sync all according to the manual. Compression test shows number 1 cylinder 119, number two cylinder 120, number 3 cylinder 121. Compression check ran twice using two different gauges, got the same results both times. If I set the idle rpm at 750 per the manual, in gear unrestricted, in the water (at the lake not on ear muffs) the engine will die. I have to set the idle rpm at 950-1000 in gear, unrestricted, in the water to prevent the engine from dying which moves the boat to fast at idle speed. WOT timing is set at 19 degrees BTC at 5000 rpm. WOT runs great no bogging down or hesitation when pushing the throttle down. Saying all of that to get to this point; today as an ignition test, with the ear muffs on, I set the idle to 1500 rpm, pulled the spark plug wire from number 1 cylinder, the rpm increased 300 rpm, I turned the engine off, returned the plug wire back to number 1 cylinder, started the engine and pulled number 2 plug wire, there was little or no change in rpm, turned the engine off, returned the plug wire back to number 2 cylinder, started the engine and pulled number 3 plug wire, the engine died. I repeated this procedure three times and on each occasion the results were the same. Does anyone have any thoughts as to what is going on? Should the change in rpm be the same across all cylinders?
 

ezeke

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Re: Ignition Problem

If the removal of a plug wire produced no change at all while the engine was running, then you have the problem cylinder isolated. The reasons can run from fuel to fire, but are often related to the ignition system, so swap the coils and see if the problem follows the coil.

Use insulated pliers to pull the wires with a twist and pull motion.
 

dblanton

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Re: Ignition Problem

If I understand correctly, the number 2 cylinder could be the one with a problem because the rpm changed very little when the plug wire was removed, by switching the coil on # 2 to #1 and run this test again and if the engine dies when I pull the plug wire on # 1 would this be an indication that the coil is bad?
 

ezeke

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Re: Ignition Problem

Yes, but be aware that you want to move the coils only, you could have bad wires or spark plugs with cracked insulators from being dropped or hit. So take it slowly, one thing at a time.
 

CharlieB

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Re: Ignition Problem

WHOA

Back the boat up a bit

Yousay when you pull #1 plug wire the engine speed INCREASED 300 rpm?

and NO CHANGE when you pull #2 plug wire?

I almost suspect someone has a couple of wires REVERSED

check your plug wires/coils that they are in the correct oder, top to botom, 1,2,3, if so then check the the coil primary wiring, see if the top two have their wires switched.
 

dblanton

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Re: Ignition Problem

Plug wires are in correct position, top coil plug wire is connected to top spark plug, middle coil plug wire is connected to middle spark plug and the bottom coil plug wire is connected to the bottom spark plug. But I haven't checked how the wires are connected from power pack etc. What should I be looking for?
 

dblanton

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Re: Ignition Problem

Ok I have checked the position of the primary coil wires and according to the wiring diagrams in the manual all three coils are wired correctly none are reversed. Does anyone have any suggestions as to why when the plug wire on #1 cylinder is pulled while the engine is idling the rpm would increase; pulled on #2 little or no change in rpm, pulled on #3 engines dies? Each plug wire was placed back on the spark plug before pulling the next one.
 
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