(image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

[NickyBFWB]

Disclaimer - I have operated some boats and done some maintenance and restoration to them but nothing on this scale and for the most part I am considering myself relatively new to all of this.



So surfing Craigslist today looking at boats I can't afford and I came across a post listing BOAT and an address. You I look and I find this waiting there

along with a price tag of Free. Well me being the foolish person I am decide I am going to go look at the boat. As of right now I own my own boat. (Pics of all I need to do will be after I go look at it tomorrow again)

I am gaining the boat due to the previous owner putting it in this storage lot 2 years ago and then passing away but only paying for one of those years. Yes, the people working there really said it something to the affect that they were insulted the guy would just die and no get his stuff.

So they managed to become owners of the boat and after it was sitting around one of the managers decided he didn't want it as a project and instead is just getting rid of it as it is taking up rentable space.

She is a 24' Penn Yan circa 1972. She is sitting on a trailer that looks like it needs more restoration than the boat does. So I have been making "friends" with a couple of the local marine repair / dealers in the area. So list of things to do.
1. Take a large amount of pictures of the boat tomorrow along with the trailer and post them here.
2. Figure out how to get the boat returned to my residence. If I manage to do that successfully then I am in it for the long haul (or until the wife tells me enough) which ever comes first.


BTW the picture makes the boat not look good... well it isn't good but it is better than the pictures make it look.

I plan to make use of the knowledge here so I hope you are up to answering some (lots) of questions.

Edit - Got to fix those spelling mistakes.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Welcome to the iboats.com forum. The experts here, which I am not, can help you solve any problem with a boat, motor or trailer. Pictures always help when you post questions. Good luck with your project!

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Willyclay thanks for the welcome and I will be posting lists of pictures as I move along with the project. Me and my trusty iPhone will be able to constantly take pictures as I work with the boat and have them uploaded to the forums for all your comments and advice.

Nick

 

[woosterken]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

could you possiblely pay to store it there and work on the trailer first to get it road worthy>
then take it home.

you should check here...

http://forums.iboats.com/Penn_Yan_Boats

it is at the bottom of the main forum index titled suggest a boat

woosterken

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I was actually considering that and the dealer on the trailer suggested that as well. From what I could tell only one of the axles had gone bad and it looked like he had replaced the first one. The only concern there is it looked like one of the braces was broken but that might be replaceable as well. From there all the tires are going to need replacing.

Thanks for he link to that section I will be reading those posts here shortly.

Nick

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I have been looking at the boat further and located on the Transom of the boat is a crack and hole where it has separated from the wood. Honestly I am wondering if this is a repairable piece of damage or not.

In the image that is my hand to give contrast to the damage.

Honest comments. Currently it is free and if it is better to walk away I will. Other than that damage I couldn't find anything further wrong with it's exterior, interior is going to be needing to be torn out and replaced.

Edit - Had to reinsert the image

 

[pkrainert]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I would walk away honestly, but it depends on how much time and money you have to put into this thing. from the pictures it looks pretty bad.

 

[woosterken]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

that does look bad,but if you read the restore forum every body replaces the transum.it all depends on your abi;ity and how far you want to get in to it
I think.

woosterken

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

that does look bad,but if you read the restore forum every body replaces the transum.it all depends on your ability and how far you want to get in to it I think.

So even being on the external side of the transum it is still repairable? I like the look of this boat and the fact that I can pick it up for free. From there I can learn everything about maintaining/repairing a boat by stripping it all down. Between that on the exterior and the engines the rest can be slow cosmetic work I believe (with the exception of some or possibly all the wiring). I am going to go look at it after work again today and take a large amount of pictures. From there I have a friend willing to throw it all into CAD so we can look at restoring it and I know a couple mechanics willing to look the motors over as well (which I think will need some major overhaul most likely as it has been sitting for 2 years).

 

[woosterken]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

is the hull wood or glass? if its wood there is probably a lot more dry rot hidden,and stringers and motor mouts also.
but like you say the price is good,if after you get into it,you find more problems you could part it out.

woosterken

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Its a glass hull. If it was wood I don't think I would want to screw with it to much.

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I would walk away honestly, but it depends on how much time and money you have to put into this thing. from the pictures it looks pretty bad.

I appreciate the honesty except for you all are pinning time / money on it. Currently I don't have a lot of money but at the price this is and with some initial investment funds I can get some things working on the boat. I also will have a small allowance from the wife that I can do things and plus I will be tearing apart the engines and poking around with those.

But after tonight when I take dozens of pictures I will let ya'll throw out some further ideas.

Nick

 

[woosterken]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

if time is not important and it just some thing to keep you out of trouble
have at it!
here is a MUST READ! its going to take awhile it s up to like a 135 pages and over 3,000 posts
follow along with it and there is NOTHING you can't fix

woosterken

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Re: 1972 Penn Yan Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I got a chance this evening to get some photos but I will be taking more again tomorrow since I get most of the afternoon to go and work with it. But here are some initial images

Me, my first mate and dedicated pirate, and the boat...

starboard side of the boat sorry about the sun in the background...

This is getting pumped out tomorrow and then getting a lot stripped out it has about 6 inches of water in it

yet another

one of the engines (there is about an inch of water down there

the other engine

though I didn't get pictures of the props but each could rotate easily also seemed like the engines might be salvageable as well. Not putting to much hope into the engines though except maybe as some parts.

You can also view the rest of the photos at 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel

Yes my son has declared the boat his pirate ship.

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Also just to get opinions but I am guessing the rack that has been added to the boat might have been for shrimping or fishing... anyone have any differing opinions on that?

 

[Willyclay]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

I am surprised that none of the members has mentioned the old boating adage: "There is no such thing as a FREE boat!" Before you start putting cash into it, be positive you can get a clear title and register it in your name. Another issue which pops up frequently with new boat owners is having a vehicle capable of safely towing the rig. A 24 footer with twin V8 inboards is a pretty heavy combo. Good luck!

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Yes well I haven't sunk the money into the boat directly yet. Just picked up a few items I have wanted anyways. Plus I thought I mentioned that I know that even though the hull is "FREE" that I know it really isn't free. I will be working out with the manager or owner of the storage center that has taken posession of the boat getting a title and getting the boat transfered to me and then registered. I believe though that they may need to file for a lost title and if so I will be getting the details down on paper for every little thing so that hopefully I can start working on the boat without the headache of wondering what if.

My wife has watched Judge Judy enough that she is advising (read Harassing me) about how to get it all worded.

Also I am looking to repair the axle on the boat and was wondering if anyone had good recommendations how to remove the trailer for the repairs.

The way I am planning on doing it is jacking up the trailer at different points and putting in boat stands to hold it up. Do that all the way around and then pull the trailer out and pray that the boat gods see it as a good idea and it all works out the way I imagine.

Any other suggestions are more than welcome.

Nick

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

Another issue which pops up frequently with new boat owners is having a vehicle capable of safely towing the rig. A 24 footer with twin V8 inboards is a pretty heavy combo. Good luck!

I have and F-150 v8 5.4L Flex Fuel and everyone I have asked said that should be more than adequate to transport it. I am definitely hoping it is as I ain't getting a bigger truck right now. Wife would murder me.

 

[woosterken]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

WOHA!!
you say there is 6" of water in it and water in the bilge under the engines?
I would bet that the floor,stringers,and motor mounts are toast!!
and if it sat this long like that it has to be full of BLACK MOLD!!!!!!!!
and other nasty things.

woosterken

 

[NickyBFWB]

Re: (image heavy) 1972 Penn Yan Tunnel Restoration - Fort Walton Beach, Florida

WOHA!!
you say there is 6" of water in it and water in the bilge under the engines?
I would bet that the floor,stringers,and motor mounts are toast!!
and if it sat this long like that it has to be full of BLACK MOLD!!!!!!!!
and other nasty things.

woosterken

Yeah I am under that assumption as well. I began pumping it out today but that was an adventure in and of itself but I should be able to get it completed soon. Then I will be removing the engines, decking, and most anything else that will be needing replacing.

Then it will be getting a scrubbing.