in search of a new motor

[lynnboy021]

the motor that i have now has a cast number 10227196 and its a 95 v6 4.3 vortex.... my question is what truck motor can i use for my swap? i know i will have to change the heads and i think the cam and the freeze plugs but i am s\just stuck on type of truck and what years i can use...... stupid me forgot to change the oil from old motor and it had some water in it from sitting for 5 years and now its hard to crank over.... please help thanks....

 

[alldodge]

the motor that i have now has a cast number 10227196 and its a 95 v6 4.3 vortex.... my question is what truck motor can i use for my swap? i know i will have to change the heads and i think the cam and the freeze plugs but i am s\just stuck on type of truck and what years i can use...... stupid me forgot to change the oil from old motor and it had some water in it from sitting for 5 years and now its hard to crank over.... please help thanks....

Why not rebuild what you have?

 

[lynnboy021]

because i am going to need all new pistons crank bearings and all that good stuff and plus i dont think there is a machine shop around me

 

[alldodge]

There are some in your area
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=machine+shop+Billerica+MA&rflfq=1&rlha=0&tbm=lcl

Hope Bondo comes around but Vortec appears to not have happened until 1996. If you don't have a vortec motor you may need to go with a pre vortec motor. Either are available but meed to verify whay you have. Do you have the serial number of the motor?

 

[Bondo]

Hope Bondo comes around but Vortec appears to not have happened until 1996. If you don't have a vortec motor you may need to go with a pre vortec motor. Either are available but meed to verify what you have. Do you have the serial number of the motor?

Ayuh,..... The Vortec name appeared on the valve covers a couple years, Before the fast burn Vortec heads came out in '96,....

The number of intake bolts is the easiest way to tell,.... Vortec is 4 on a side, pre-vortec 6 on a side,...

Without buyin' a new intake, you'll need a pickup motor from '95 or before,....
Buy a Vortec intake, 'n you can run a '96, 'n newer,....

 

[Scott Danforth]

S-10s are good sources. Your 95 is not a vortec headed motor unless it has been changed. The vortec heads came out in 1996.

 

[lynnboy021]

i will take some pics for you guys tomorrow... thanks

 

[Scott Danforth]

we do not need pics, if your intake manifold has 12 bolts holding it to the heads, its a 95 or older. if your intake has 8 bolts, its a 96 or newer.

 

[Rick Stephens]

Not that it makes or breaks the purchase of a used motor that is not the same, but there is also other year model differences:

• 1987 roller lifters and cam and one piece main seal
• 1992 balance shaft added
• 1996 Vortec heads with 8 bolt intake

lynnboy's 95 would most likely be 12 bolt intake, w/balance shaft and roller cam/lifters. Any of his parts and pieces would crossover on a similar block. Things get more interesting when you get a motor that has different components only if you have to swap over timing chain cover, oil pan, lifters and pushrods, stuff like that.

Rick

 

[lynnboy021]

so the intake has 12 bolts 6 on each side...

 

[Rick Stephens]

so the intake has 12 bolts 6 on each side...

Anything from 87 to 95 should work for you and be the same. You can use literally any of your parts then.

There is nothing wrong with going 96 and up except you'll need to make allowances for a different intake manifold, possibly a little difference in carb height, different valve covers. Exhaust stuff will bolt right up. You gain a little HP going to the Vortec (8 bolt intake) heads - terrible, huh :^) Wide range of choices and most all of them are easy to find and not hard at all to figure out how to stick your mercruiser parts on 'their' block.

Rick

 

[stardog]

Not to barge in the thread, but I think it is relative. Does it matter whether the 4.3 vortec is an MPI or TBI motor? Or are the fuel injectors seated in the intake?

Thanks,
John L
Bethlehem, GA
97 Sea Ray 4.3

 

[alldodge]

MPI's are, TBI's are not, but they use the same block

 

[Bondo]

Does it matter whether the 4.3 vortec is an MPI or TBI motor? Or are the fuel injectors seated in the intake?

Ayuh,.... The induction system off the truck ain't very adaptable to the boat motor, so it gets tossed, replaced by the original marine system, or a new intake, 'n carb,...

The Only thing that gets used from the pickup motor is the Long Block assembly,.....