install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

[xtremefisher1]

has anyone ever did this before? can it be done? does anyone know where to drip that hole for a tell tale?? the reason i am asking is cuz i would like to put one in mine but unsure of the placement and what to do ..

thanks

 

[F_R]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Feeling lucky? Look on the port side of the powerhead. Forward of the second head bolt down, you will see a round boss cast on the block. If you are lucky, it may have a plug screwed in to it. If so, remove the plug, screw in a hose nipple fitting, and you are good to go.

If just a hole with no plug, no problem. Drill through the bottom of the hole, just into the water jacket. STOP drilling when you hit air. If you keep drilling through the cylinder wall---well you get the picture. OK, now tap threads in the hole with a 1/8" NPT (pipe thread) tap. You are now ready for a hose nipple fitting.

Use a fairly small diameter hose, but don't worry about losing too much cooling water. That hole was originally there for water flow to the automatic choke on earlier models.

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Awesome. I like that idea.

Does that '64 40 have an electric choke on it?

 

[F_R]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

1964 (electric) has a hot-air heated automatic choke, with electric solenoid booster. Or, more accurately, an electric choke for starting and a hot-air heated automatic warm-up choke.

The hot air comes from a "stove" inside the exhaust manifold. Surprise, they actually worked pretty well.

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

actually mine just has the hot air choke not electric. which i am changing out to an electric choke as soon as i get my carb rebuild kit ordered just have to wait till after the holidays. i do not have the tube from the exhaust cover to my chocke , instead i have like 4 lines coming off the crankcase and other areas which i dont remeber where at this moment.

it is a electric starting motor . i added a generator to it and will be adding the electric choke soon..

F_R can u show me a picture possibly?

Zephyr clean out ur inbox i cant send u any more pms

 

[F_R]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Whatcha got there, a Frankenrude or something? Sounds like you might have a 1963 or earlier, if it has all those (water) lines. 1964-up has a steel pipe between the choke and exhaust covers. And it indeed should have the electric solenoid on it if it is a 1964 Electric start.

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

All my numbers say its a 64 but someone else before me might have changed the power head on it . Even the welch plug on my motor matches a 64 but who knows

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

actually mine just has the hot air choke not electric. which i am changing out to an electric choke as soon as i get my carb rebuild kit ordered just have to wait till after the holidays. i do not have the tube from the exhaust cover to my chocke , instead i have like 4 lines coming off the crankcase and other areas which i dont remeber where at this moment.

it is a electric starting motor . i added a generator to it and will be adding the electric choke soon..

F_R can u show me a picture possibly?

Zephyr clean out ur inbox i cant send u any more pms

Oops. Okay, yea, it looks like it's getting a bit full LOL

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Whatcha got there, a Frankenrude or something? Sounds like you might have a 1963 or earlier, if it has all those (water) lines. 1964-up has a steel pipe between the choke and exhaust covers. And it indeed should have the electric solenoid on it if it is a 1964 Electric start.

Yea, I would like to know what the typical issue is with the earlier style automatic chokes ('63 and earlier) because both of my Larks with them run fantastic, but the choke just won't open, while it's in the Auto slection. I don't really want to change the carbs out, because the carbs are all in awesome working shape.

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

here are my numbers i have on my motor its a 40353 model number... everyone says its a 64 and so does my factory manual i just bought .. maybe a early 64 made iin 63???

my bad everyone it is a 63 40 hp not a 64 i must have got my motors mixed up with my 64 johnny rkl-26s cuz that one is a 64 ,,

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

It's okay. You'll just have to add it to your signature.

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

the stupid thing is , its already in my siggy lol and i still got them mixed up.

 

[F_R]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Yea, I would like to know what the typical issue is with the earlier style automatic chokes ('63 and earlier) because both of my Larks with them run fantastic, but the choke just won't open, while it's in the Auto slection. I don't really want to change the carbs out, because the carbs are all in awesome working shape.

What you just said is exactly what the issue is. They choke too much during the warm-up stage. They were that way when brand new. I just told people to put it on automatic for a cold start, then flip it to choke off position. The guy usually wasn't too pleased to hear that after spending bucks for a top of the line motor. Good thing they put those front doors on the hood.

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Yea, that's what I noticed too. Maybe the water isn't hot enough at that point to work it correctly. It didn't really appear to be a way of adjusting them either, but I could be wrong. What's funny, samo_ott says that he has a motor with this set up and claims that it works good. Well, fortunately, I didn't spend a lot of bucks on mine, even though I got the top of the line motor Yea, I know what you mean about those front doors. LOL I guess a guy could run a choke cable to the motor to open the choke at start up

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

So since I already have the water hoses do I just taken the one on the port side and put a hose opn it out of my lower cowling?

 

[F_R]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

Yep. Or you could put a T in it if you hold onto hope that the choke will work.

 

[xtremefisher1]

Re: install a tell tale on a 64 40hp????

i am changing out my carb for a electric choke one so i just want to plug the holes up and n ot have to worry about that stupid choke anyhow... i am just waiting on some parts so i can finnish putting my lower end back together and get started on the carbs .. there is absolutly not enough time in a day for me right now with christmas coming and shopping and yah havent even touch my motor in like 2 weeks .. with working and the holidays .. mahhhhhh to much to do and yet is still is kinda warm here 0 degress celcius today with rain.. not a bad day if i say so myself.. not even cold yet ..