installing new thermo switches

peeterb

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i am replacing the thermo switches on my 1987 110hp evinrude.I have purchased a Clymers manual for this motor.when i place the thermo switch in the hole on the heads I have to take the cylender head cover off to fit switch in place.Now i have to put covers back on.My question is in the manual it says to torque cylender head cover screws to 60-84 in/lb do i have to go out and pucrchase a torque rench that measures in inch pounds or is there a conversion to get this measurement to foot pounds seeing how i already have a torque wrench that measures in foot pounds.Thanks.
 

Joe Reeves

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Re: installing new thermo switches

Glass.... The 1/4x20 bolts that retain the water jacket cover to the cylinder head aren't that critical. You really do not need to torque them. Simply tighten them with a box wrench, starting from the center left bolt to the center right bolt, then continue on in a ever widening circle.<br /><br />Pertaining to foot/inch pound conversions...<br /><br />Inch pounds divided by 12 = foot pounds<br /><br />Foot pounds multiplied by 12 = inch pounds
 

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Re: installing new thermo switches

Mr Reeves.<br />Thanks for your reply but.<br />The two temperature switches on my 110hp evenrude are located in a hole between the cylenders(one for each of the two banks.In order to take theese two switches out i had to take the two cylender head covers off.I hope i didn't get mixed up between a thermo switch and a temperature switch that controls when the remote horn will sound when motor starts to over heat.My clymers manual has a break down of the power head and only shows the thermo switch in the water passage cover.Does not show the two temperature switches that are located in the cylender head covers.Is there a difference between thermo and temperature switches?Thanks for confirming the foot and inch conversion.Thanks
 

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Glass.... The "Thermo Swich" as you refer to it, which sits in a hole under the water jacket plate of the cylinder head, is actually a heat sensing unit, most commonly called a sender or sending unit.<br /><br />It has a metal plate on the foremost end of it, seating up against a rubber type barrel assy, with a "Tan" wire protruding from it, the end of which has either a plug in or knife type connector. I describe this so that we are both speaking of the same item.<br /><br />It's purpose, when the engine overheats, is to ground out the sender unit to the cylinder head. This completes the ground circuit leading to the warning horn which in turn causes the warning horn to sound.<br /><br />There is no "Temperature" switch on either cylinder head, that is nothing of that nature would be standard equipment with the purchased engine when new.<br /><br />If there is a temperature gauge on the boat, then perhaps, when you refer to a temperature switch, you are refering to a brass unit that is screwed into a "L" shaped bracket..... in which case that "L" shaped bracket is held to the water jacket cover by one of the retaining bolts. That brass unit would indeed be a temperature sending unit which would constantly be sending a signal to regulate the reading of the temperature gauge.<br /><br />The end of that brass unit should not be touching the cylinder head as that usually creates a false reading (too hot) on the gauge. Adjust it so that there is a .010 clearance between the brass unit and the cylinder head.<br /><br />Hopefully this is what you are referring to. If not, I'm somewhat at a loss.
 

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Wow now i am really confused and somewhat irratated at what i thought was a simple job.<br />When I look at my motor it does not have a water passage cover that is even looks close to the one that is in my clymers manual and there is definately not a spot there for the temperature switch.I did on the other hand go to the local boat shop here and ask to purchase a temperature switch for a 1987 110hp evinrude and they sold me two switches that have a small metal plate seating up against a rubber barrel with a tan wire coming out the end with a plug in connector.The fellow showed me a diagram on the microfeesh the hole in the side of the cylender head cover where it is to be inserted.this information is not even close to what my manual says.even the outer exhaust cover in the manual looks flat but on my motor it is bubbled out on the stern of the motor.<br />I do not know what to think 30 years with omc or huge bill at boat shop.<br />Thanks for the help though.
 

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Joe You were right though about my motor having a brass temperature sending unit that is on the surface of the cylender head cover located on the top cylender on the starboard side of motor.<br />thanks
 

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What is the "Model" number of that engine?
 

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hoping you would not ask.<br />Identifacation tag is gone off transom.<br />Fellow at boat shop is the one that told me year when i brought motor to shop.serial # only c7210200.<br />What are you thinking?
 

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after six months i finally tracked down boat and motor from two previous owners.<br />1986 110hp Evinrude Model # E110tlcdc.<br />Maybe now someone can tell me why the break down of where the temperature switches are to go are so different than what the Clymer manual shows.
 

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I've got a Clymer manual that covers 48-235Hp. from 1973 'til 1990. If you have the same manual, what page are you looking at for the location of the "water passage cover"?<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

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I think I see where he's coming from. Looks like the manual shows one hi temp sensor in the thermostat housing but the wiring diagram shows two. Hummm.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

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Hooty I am looking on page 339 and it shows the temperature or thermo switch inserting into the water passage cover which my water cpassage cover looks nothing like this one.By the way that sounds like the same manual as the one i purchased.I still think the switches are suppose to be inserted into a hole in each of the cylender head covers.The hole is there and it would make sence.I also went back to the boat delership here in town and again they brought up a break down on the computer of the power head and it does show two temperature switches inserted into the hole on the cylender head.I was hoping to get this clarified by all the expertise on this board so that i will feel a hole lot better at where i am about to install theese two switches.<br />Clarifacation would be appreciated .
 

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Glass.... I'm at a complete loss as to what you're speaking of. However, for clarification, click on the link below to view a exploded view of the 1986 110hp crankcase/powerhead which shows the one each heat sender (#35) that exists in each cylinder head. One sender to a head.<br /><br /> http://hometown.aol.com/reevesj32/page2.html
 

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one in the right and one in the left cylinderhead.<br />that makes 2. follow the beige collored wire.<br />If there are no holes to put the switches in than you might not have the original cylinderheads.<br />Somebody must know whats going on here?
 

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Yep, the picture on 339 is the one I was lookin' at to. The book is f.u.b.b. Put the sensors in the two holes in the cylinder heads.<br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

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I can not say thanks enough to everyone for the help.<br />Joe the exploded view of the 110 hp is not the same as the clymer manual.This manual shows the temp switches going through a hole in the #43 cover on your picture.<br />I went and bought the gaskets and some Quick silver perfect seal from the boat dealership today.<br />I am back to thinking this will be a simple Job.I hate to sound stupid Hooty but what does F.U.B.B stand for.<br />Thanks again.
 

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Glassc...why not break down and git yerself a good OEM manual? Save ya' lottsa time and aggrivation. :)
 

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Glass..... Could you send me a picture of your powerhead? Address is below.<br /><br />If your engines powerhead is different from the powerhead exploded view that I entered, you do not have a 1986 110hp Evinrude.
 

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Obj I just bought this clymer manual 4 months ago but after this i believe you to be wright.Where can i get a Oem manual.<br />Joe Reeves the exploded view that you posted is exactly like the engine i have but is much different than the exploded view in my clymers manual that i will be throwing in the garbage and replacing with a oem manual when I find one for my evinrude.
 

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Glass... If you cannot locate a OMC manual via this site, contact me at my address (below) and remind me what you're looking for.
 
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