Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

massimofinance

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HI ALL:

I have a 17 foot bowrider and the pieces or wood covered vinyl that runs along both sides in the inside of the boat is to be redone. I have some real nice pieces of red oak I want to hit with Poly and install there instead. What do you think? A Mistake? Will I get splinters during the summer usage? Like to know your thoughts. Thx.
 

tashasdaddy

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

i had some in my boat, it does not like direct sun, split, got extremely ugly. got ripped out. use some 3/8 exterior plywood and cover it.
 

JB

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

Teak, mahogany and maybe cypress are good woods for marine use. Oak is not.
 

Woodnaut

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

I built my boat from marine plywood (okoume - a species of mahogany), mahogany, untold quantities of epoxy, glass and silicon bronze (or SST) fasteners. Around here I can usually lay my hands on either Philippine or Honduran mahogany. The Philippine is usually lighter weight and easier to bend. The Honduran stuff is heavy and heck for stout. After 8 years of service all of the mahogany has held up VERY well. Hope this helps. - Woodnaut
 

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Bondo

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

Ayuh,.....

Red Oak is a Bad Choice,.....
Actually most Oak is a Bad Choice....

Only White Oak is used in boat construction,....
And,....
Only after it's been Boiled...... Otherwise it Rots,... Quickly......
 

mstrud

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

Oak is an all around bad choice for marine applications. It has a much greater tendancy then most other woods to swell and contract when coming into contact with moisture and drying out. this makes it the wrong choice for any boating applications.
 

eastern27

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

All is not doom and gloom. It depends on where you live and the boats usage, and storage. I replaced foam covered gunnel bolsters with oak on my old Sea Nymph GLS195 and it worked great ,really good for mounting rod holders. The boat was trailered and stored covered. Relative humidity isn't a big problem up north, uv is a bigger issue. If you like the look of the oak try it. Just forget the poly. Use some West systems epoxy, all four sides. It will be a ***** to bend the oak into place. What the hey, you own the wood and the boat.
 

Grits

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

Ditto JB

Oak is a very open grained wood. It is hard to work and is heavy. JB's choices are in the order of mine. If you use cypress, make sure it is heart wood. If you can get quarter sawed it is even better.

Good Luck

Grits
 

External Combustion

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

I disagree with some of my fellow boaters here. Oak is not the kiss of death in the marine world, as several ancient hulks are still with us that are made of oak. Ever hear of the USS Constitution? How about the USS Constillation, HMS Victory or the Mary Rose? Enough of my predjudice rantings.

Any of the White Oak family would be a good choice for ship wood. The grain is close knit, absorbing little fresh water. If you salt it down then it will last at least fifty years. As the Mary Rose show it may last five hundred years. You have to keep it salted down or put Cuprinol or its equivalent on the wood though.

On my Phoenix, an oak planked and framed vessel, I have had some rot. After ten years unprotected, I did have to replace a deck beam that was Southern Yellow Pine and fifteen inches of the gunnel that was White Oak.

Fortunately, the guys down in the Gulf taught me about the preservative power of plain old salt. I now have salt boxes aboard her.

As to the specifics of your post. Red Oak has greater width of the pore between the fibers of the wood. Look at the dark portions of the stick of wood and you will understand what I am trying to say. White Oak will have smaller pores. Go to a good wood supplier to see genuine white oak and red oak. Hold them in your hand and from then on you will know the difference.

Red oak can be used as a marine wood if it is kept above the waterline and is saturated constantly with salt or other wood preservative. Keep the pores from absorbing fresh water.

I hope this helps.

A wooden boat constructor.
 

Grits

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Re: Is It A Mistake To Use Red Oak In My Boat?

Thanks EC, I just learned something. When I retire, which may be never, I want to build a wooden Lightening. FYI-I am a fellow woodworker.

Grits
 
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