Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

GoldLS1

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As the title says... due to weight purposes is there any drawback to mounting two batteries in the front of an aluminum boat (moving from the back)?

Seems with all my "little" (heavy!) upgrades I've added a few 100 lbs to the very back of the boat! I'd like to move them... just wondering the pros /cons.

THANKS!!
 

88BLiner

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

I am sure it would be okay as long as you use the correct wiring. I would go with a couple gauges thicker battery cables. But I know of a lot of guys changing battery placement for wieght distrabution.
 

GoldLS1

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

Larger gauge is what I was planning on. It'll be around a 10-15' run back to the motor, however, it will be much closer run from the batteries to my amp.

I was more worried about the jaring around from rough water being as the front of the boat bounces more and takes the harder hits from waves? Can batteries take this kind of abuse?
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

it made my boat get on plane faster and ride more comfortably through mild chop. However, top speed on glassy smooth days dropped by about 10%.
 

GoldLS1

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

Ouch on the top speed!! Oh well... to have sub BASS and 18 more gallons of gas is worth it to me!

I'll be moving them to the front this weekend along with redoing the gas lines and installing the stereo!! If I'm lucky I'll mess with the tilt/trim too :(
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

I'm also considering the same move to relocate the battery to the front of the boat. The reason I have not pull the trigger yet is because of the concern over the weight of the battery, combined with the pounding that I typically get in choppy water with my boat. If the deck is not completely solid, it wouldn't take long for the 90# battery is to cause some real damage to the boat.

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GoldLS1

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

Good point... I have battery boxes for them. I might see what I can hunt to put under them for added shock absorption.
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

Just use one of those nylon web straps to keep the box from flopping around. The strap come free inside the Walmart battery boxes (boxes are around $5). They come with two plastic loops that you screw into the deck on each side of the battery box and then snug the strap around the box to hold it down.

My boat is a 14 footer and it came with a battery box up front to plug a trolling motor into. So having a battery up front is not uncommon even though you will be using yours for a starter and running wires back to the motor.
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

I would try using some kind if foam to surround the battery like te kind they sell at home depot or lowes which is used for insulation.
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

i just built a frame that stood 1" above the deck with some holes drilled through the aluminum. for my boat it was up under the center console in a space that was otherwise unused. All the way up front would have been too long of a cable run. Voltage drop on starter is a major concern. Then I went to auto-zone and bought the heaviest gauge jumper cables they had. whacked off the clamps and soldered in some lugs using a propane torch. ran a few feet of that into a perko a,b,ab,off battery switch and then another run back to stern. at stern I simply drilled a pair of holes through a thick part of fiberglass about 4" apart and used a pair of SS carriage bolts to as terminal blocks to connect both sets of engine wires down to battery cables. Never had a problem with any of it. Batteries could go for months without losing charge and the cheapie walmart marine batteries were good for about 6 years each. Second best mod I ever made. First best was cutting out the front seat and dropping a same-size cooler into the hole.
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

I noticed something in the local Academy this weekend you might want to check if the jarring is that bad. I couldn't get the site to pull up (I guess 'cuz it says it's Beta), but here is the description:

Protect your starting or deep-cycle battery from wave action, shocks and jarring with the BATTERYLAST? Blue Marine Battery Shock Absorbers.

I don't remember how much they were, but basically they looked like a big version of the little stick on dots you can put on the bottom of things to avoid scratching your table up or having things slide around.

Well, I found the manufacturers website, so maybe that will help too:

http://www.batterylast.com/datasheet.htm
 

GoldLS1

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

Thanks for the advice!! Av8nBill I'll check out Academy for those and test them out.

How far of a run is too far before I see issues? It'll be 10-15 feet I'd guess...
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

My battery's in the bow. Don't seem to mind it much. Just getcha a good tie down kit. And no less than 6ga, preferably 4ga cables.
 

jerryjerry05

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

You need #2 or #0 cables if your gonna run past 10 ft.Especially in a twin battery setup(charging both at one time) #4/6 is usually what's on a boat.
Jumper cables are usually a 6ga even smaller.
Battery cable is about $3 a foot.I really missed being able to get it from work(didn't cost me a dime)Any kind of pressure treated plywood under the battery boxes and rubber will help hold them in place.Make sure the tops are on good.No holes in the bottom of the battery box.J
 

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Re: Is it ok to mount the battery in the front of the boat?

One other note is that I would use Optima batteries for this application, they are designed for a more abusive environment like the bow. I had two in my Rockcrawler and believe me they take a beating and keep on going, I rolled my rockcrawler completely over several times and never had an issue with the batteries.

From the Optima website:

What does an OPTIMA? Spiralcell? design do?

The unique design of the Spiralcell Technology provides many features not available in ordinary batteries, such as:

More plate surface, closer plate spacing and the ability to use high purity lead. RESULTING IN: Low internal resistance. This low resistance gives you more power in a smaller box, the ability to recharge much faster, and higher and cleaner voltage characteristics during discharge.
Immobilized plates (locked in place). RESULTING IN: Improved vibration resistance, no shedding of active paste material, no gradual loss of power and capacity as the battery ages. This gives you a battery that lasts longer and performs better throughout its life.

Why does an OPTIMA battery last longer than other batteries?

The main reasons the OPTIMA battery has a longer life are:

There is no shedding of active paste material
The Spiralcell design immobilizes the plates preventing the active paste from working loose, which can cause plate to plate shorting
They utilize a high purity lead-tin grid
The grid material in OPTIMA batteries is more resistant to grid degradation - a type of internal corrosion that affects the plates inside a battery as it ages
The completely sealed design prevents loss of water which can lead to plate dry-out and failure

Why the low rate of self-discharge?

Mostly this is due to the purity of the lead in the OPTIMA plates. Some of the alloys in conventional batteries are more prone to electron transfer resulting in higher self-discharge than what is found in an OPTIMA battery.

Why is OPTIMA not perishable like other batteries?

OPTIMA batteries have an increased ability to withstand the high demands being placed on batteries today including high heat situations, heavy electronic loads and increased vibration. The Spiralcell Technology in an OPTIMA is what keeps it from shedding active material that gives a battery power. This technology also extends an OPTIMA battery?s cycling ability.

What is a Gel Cell Battery? Is OPTIMA a gel battery?

A gel battery design is typically a modification of the standard lead-acid automotive or marine battery. A gelling agent is added to the electrolyte to reduce movement inside the battery case. Many gel batteries also use one way valves in place of open vents, which helps the normal internal gasses to recombine back into water in the battery, reducing gassing.

An OPTIMA battery is not a "gel" battery or regular flooded acid battery. An OPTIMA is a Spiralcell AGM battery.

Does an OPTIMA battery ever gas?

When used with a properly regulated constant voltage charging system (such as an alternator) the OPTIMA will usually not emit hydrogen gas. However, gassing can occur when charging at higher voltage levels or in extreme high temperature conditions. In automotive applications this typically will not happen if the alternator/regulator stay below 15 volts.
 
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