Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

Hugh H

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I want to have only the upper unit on..in an attempt to diagnose a cooling issue. Looking for tips or tricks. Thinking if i could place something in to the coupler within the upper half I'd then be able to spin it hence spin the universal shaft inturn lining up splines for engine coupler. Thanks
 

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Re: Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

I want to have only the upper unit on..in an attempt to diagnose a cooling issue. Looking for tips or tricks. Thinking if i could place something in to the coupler within the upper half I'd then be able to spin it hence spin the universal shaft inturn lining up splines for engine coupler. Thanks

Why install just the upper? No pump in the upper. Besides, without the lower, you wouldn't have any oil in the upper.

The coupler or a shaft being in it has absolutely nothing to do with cooling.

Why don't you just explain your cooling issue instead of making up meaningless tests.
 

Hugh H

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Re: Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

98' 4.3 alpha 1 gen.2
I have THE ISSUE of starboard side running much hotter than port. After a few parts and a lot of reading and some tests I believe I'm not getting the propper volume of water.
Fresh and saltwater use and basically lives on a trailer.
New Parts
Manifold/elbows/shutters old ones were one piece style and original 13 yrs!
Thermostat...while replacing I inspected the housing it's clear
raw water pump
Still had the problem. this was last august
Now I'm digging deeper.
-Hoses to manifolds clear
-Remove the lower unit and stick a hose on the water tube in the upper drive once again bearley any water out of the starboard idel relief port unless I block the port side relief. engine not running
-Pull the upper unit off jam a hose in to the water port on bell housing. sweet all smiles, even water flow at relief ports, fire up the engine it holds at 160? (which it typically did) the elbows are very similar in temp and cool to the touch, no steam exiting the starboard relief port! Getting there
-Now i stick the hose on the upper unit water port where it meets the bell housing. Hoping to blast out a blockage by reversing the typical flow. didn't see anything come out. Removed the water tube, clear, inspect water passage with a strong light didn't see any problems.

So now we are current and I was just looking to install only the upper housing to retest, perhaps I cleared something out and didn't notice.

I sucked it up, put on the lower unit (with only two bolts) and installed the drive. Heading out now to remove the lower and stick the house on the water tube within the upper housing and see what happens.

Is it okay to run the engine with just the upper unit, no gear oil? thinking it's possible because there is no load on it???
Thank you
 

Hugh H

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Re: Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

Wow discouraged.... It's all buttoned up and I think I have the same issue...but.. this is running it on a hose/muffs. will dip it in the water tonight and see what happens...fingers crossed.
 

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Re: Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

Is it okay to run the engine with just the upper unit, no gear oil? thinking it's possible because there is no load on it???
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Are you serious?
 

Hugh H

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Re: Is it possible to install just the upper unit? alpha 1 gen 2

Serious as a heart attack, everything is coated in lube.. it isn't bone dry. I wound up not running it like that. Better safe than sorry.

After dunking it in the great Hudson river and letting it run awhile, on the trailer, the elbows are close in temperature...where as before i couldn't keep my hand on the starboard elbow (whether on a hose or running the river)
Conclusion I guess there was a restriction in the upper unit water way, I cleared it, just never noticed what it was.
 
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