Is this motor worth repairing?

kax2000

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I dont have the model # or know the year of this motor yet. It is a 4 cylinder and 1 of the cylinders is dead. The lower unit needs rebuild also.
But is it worth looking at or fixing it with those problems?
Or do I need more info to get a good answer?
 

Lyle29464

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

If you can do the tear down it's worth looking deeper. If the wall is bad it's over. You can find used stuff for the foot.
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

Thanks for the reply.

If the "wall" is ok....what is the value of it?
I am sure the parts to fix it is high...but I have no ideal what it is worth in this condition.
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

all most nothing. Too likely the engine is ruined.
 

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So....the price of scrap metal.
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

The guy selling this motor also had a early 80's Chrysler 20 hp. runs good, strong compression just needs a water pump.
Is that worth fixing?
 

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I would bet that you could buy a newer used motor for what it costs to repair the red band. I have a '77 blue band and I was told that one of the deciding factors was whether it was a thunderbolt ignition with no distributor. That makes sense to me, a distributor near water is far less than ideal, although they are out there running. Also keep in mind that certain Mercs, mine included, have no head. In order to replace a piston, the entire crankshaft with all rods and pistons have to come out in one piece out the bottom. I'm told many dealers won't work on them.
 

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The guy selling this motor also had a early 80's Chrysler 20 hp. runs good, strong compression just needs a water pump.
Is that worth fixing?
Pass on the Chrysler. The Merc looks to be about a 1970 or there abouts... Good motors when tuned correctly. If you are mechanically inclined you could fix it up.
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

Why pass on the Chrysler?
The cost to fix it?
 

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Why pass on the Chrysler?
The cost to fix it?
Chrysler outboards have been out of production for nearly 20 years now. So you can image, parts are, and will continue to be tougher to come by. As supply dwindle, costs will go up. Although the Merc pictured is in ruff shape, parts are more numerous. good parts can be had on places like eBay or Craigslist. If you are willing to do the work yourself, costs can be kept to minimum. Also, a good running "red band" will have a higher re-sale value.

Just my opinion, I'm sure others will have their own as well :)
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

The guy selling this motor also had a early 80's Chrysler 20 hp. runs good, strong compression just needs a water pump.
Is that worth fixing?

It's certainly worth fixing. Question is, is it worth buying. That would depend on what he's asking for it :D
 

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Is $100 for the Chrysler and $150 for the Merc. a good deal?
 

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The guy selling this motor also had a early 80's Chrysler 20 hp. runs good, strong compression just needs a water pump.
Is that worth fixing?

Well, if all the Chrysler needs is a water pump, :confused: :confused: it certianly would be a cheaper fix than the Merc.
 

kax2000

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

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How about this motor?
I picked this one up today.
It hasn't ran in over 10 years, but ran good when put away.
Is it worth fixing?
 

mr 88

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

Well if you already bought it why are you asking if it's worth fixing? What has to be "fixed" seeing that it MAYBE ran a decade go.Impeller/fuel pump/carbs and wiring will need to be addressed AFTER you check compression.That is the big question,report back with numbers on all 6 cylinders.Looks to be a short shaft and what are you putting it on? Serial number will tell you the year,what model is it?
 

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Well if you already bought it why are you asking if it's worth fixing? What has to be "fixed" seeing that it MAYBE ran a decade go.Impeller/fuel pump/carbs and wiring will need to be addressed AFTER you check compression.That is the big question,report back with numbers on all 6 cylinders.Looks to be a short shaft and what are you putting it on? Serial number will tell you the year,what model is it?

Because I got it for free.

I was looking to buy a motor just to fix it up....that is why I posted about the Merc and the Chrysler.
I want to put the money into something that is high quality and unique.
I am to new to boating, i don't know what is a "top of the line" vintage outboard motor.
If it was a muscle car I could relate...but it's new territory.
 

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Because I got it for free.

I was looking to buy a motor just to fix it up....that is why I posted about the Merc and the Chrysler.
I want to put the money into something that is high quality and unique.
i don't know what is a "top of the line" vintage outboard motor.

not sure if "high quality.. unique...and Chrysler"...should be used in the same sentence...:D
and, yep..l have one..
though Frank A has made one of his into a piece of art, hope he doesn't mind me mentioning it


run of the mill outboards mostly...except maybe for the racing models,
l like the "look" of the late 50's and mid 60's mercs...some beautiful examples of those around...but they cost a pretty penny too when done up..
google classic mercuryoutboards...something like that anywho..
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

When you said you "picked up a motor" that usually means I bought one,not free.Anyway if you are looking for unique as stated a Merc Tower/Stacker/L6 are all in line 6, is a step in the right direction. A racing one is a much better find and that would include a 1500xs or Twister model,good luck in finding either one at a reasonable price.Your freebie is a early 60's,maybe 70-90 hp as it has a recoil pull start on the hat,not a rope inside.Nice engine and is missing the coverplate on the top of the midsection,not hard to find.IF you restore her and you want to put her on a boat I believe you need a boat with a 15" transom or you will have to put a jack plate$$ on a 20"transom to get it to work.If you would like to see some examples of the twister and 1500xs among other classic Mercs go to face book and search- in line 6 Mercury outboard motor fans- then click on the first picture you see.After that hit the forward arrow and scroll through the pics, you will see some of the nicest ones made.That site also has a lot of old time Merc guys that know them inside out.
Because I got it for free.

I was looking to buy a motor just to fix it up....that is why I posted about the Merc and the Chrysler.
I want to put the money into something that is high quality and unique.
I am to new to boating, i don't know what is a "top of the line" vintage outboard motor.
If it was a muscle car I could relate...but it's new territory.
 

kax2000

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

When you said you "picked up a motor" that usually means I bought one,not free.Anyway if you are looking for unique as stated a Merc Tower/Stacker/L6 are all in line 6, is a step in the right direction. A racing one is a much better find and that would include a 1500xs or Twister model,good luck in finding either one at a reasonable price.Your freebie is a early 60's,maybe 70-90 hp as it has a recoil pull start on the hat,not a rope inside.Nice engine and is missing the coverplate on the top of the midsection,not hard to find.IF you restore her and you want to put her on a boat I believe you need a boat with a 15" transom or you will have to put a jack plate$$ on a 20"transom to get it to work.If you would like to see some examples of the twister and 1500xs among other classic Mercs go to face book and search- in line 6 Mercury outboard motor fans- then click on the first picture you see.After that hit the forward arrow and scroll through the pics, you will see some of the nicest ones made.That site also has a lot of old time Merc guys that know them inside out.

I built a engine stand and got it sturdy.
I am trying to get a compression check done. The starter is spinning but not engaging the flywheel to turn the motor over.
So I will use the "pull start" to check the #'s. The problem is when I pull the rope the motor does not turn over.
Is it defective? Do I need to engage the pull start somehow to work?
 

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Re: Is this motor worth repairing?

I built a engine stand and got it sturdy.
I am trying to get a compression check done. The starter is spinning but not engaging the flywheel to turn the motor over.
So I will use the "pull start" to check the #'s. The problem is when I pull the rope the motor does not turn over.
Is it defective? Do I need to engage the pull start somehow to work?

Have you tried to turn the flywheel by hand? If you can't turn it, don't do anything else until you get some Mystery oil in the cylinders
 
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