Japan is no longer alone in this

[LippCJ7]

According to Reuters, Fukushima Perfecture is stating that Tepco's no.1 reactors ceiling has collapsed 1:34 am MDT

The information I have gotten off the internet says that Japan could have as many as 5 reactors in trouble, this is the first, that said here is a map with projected radiation propagation

Never mind it appears the map is incorrect, withdrawn by the ARS

http://www.twitvid.com/LICNU

 

[LippCJ7]

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Japan Chief Cabinet Secretary Edano Confirms radiation leak at Fukushima power plant Reuters 2:07 AM MDT

 

[LippCJ7]

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Better video of the blast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSUqVxrSBBI

 

[LippCJ7]

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The Japanese Government is now evacuating the area surrounding a second Nuclear Power Plant near Tokyo

 

[kenmyfam]

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Thoughts and prayers to everyone over there. Tragic situation for them to deal with.

 

[rbh]

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This could get really serious if they can not get them cooled down.

(Why am I getting a Godzilla flashback)

 

[LippCJ7]

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I agree bud but after I was reviewing the numbers that the map was stating 750 Rads after 10 days and however many miles It became questionable, North America will not see the lethal dose of 750 Rads, it is completely accurate though that we will see dramatically increased radiation just not lethal, thyroid cases are likely, this should be the worst case scenario for North America, The Aleutian islands are much closer and would see very different radiation dosages.

The Radiation situation not withstanding the Exodus from Japan will begin at any time, I have no idea what the food stores of Japan are and I have no indication that they have much at all, I would expect once they get commercial flights back up, it will be resources in and people out most people in Japan will come to North America, While it is a knee jerk reaction it could very well save thousands of lives

I am not a Nuclear Biologist and I did not stay in a Holiday Inn Express either

I am willing to bet Godzilla has already left the building

 

[PiratePast40]

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Let's not get too excited about projected radition levels and the direction of the plume until there is real data available. The horrific explosion was from hydrogen and was not a nuclear or steam explosion. Initial reports indicate it did not breech the drywell enclosure itself. There is indeed the possibility of grave danger to the workers and people in the immediate area. As far as danger to others, it remains to be seen. There has allready been some release of steam with the resulting fission product gasses but that is not a global hazard.

Reports are that they are currently trying to cool the core with whatever means possible and they are reporting that they are having some success that should somewhat mitigate the progression of core damage and subsequent releases.

Be assured that there is no danger of a catastrophy the extent of Chernobyl. This is a modern BWR plant and not a graphite core design like Chernobyl. Not to minimize the potential for death and grave danger at the site, but we will not see the global consequences we saw in the Ukraine.

 

[DaNinja]

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One of the downsides of 24 hour news is they feel compelled to fill the air time with any content or report. Everyone wants to be first and reliabity/accuracy gets compromised in the process.

 

[cribber]

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NBC just said they lost the ability to cool two reactors... hopefully they've completed the 12 mile evacuation zone.

 

[LippCJ7]

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To be completely honest here I have to hand it to the Japanese, the primary containment structure is still intact, the explosion blew the secondary containment structure into orbit and elsewhere. If I have confidence in anyone with Nuclear issues its the Japanese. Hats off to them.

Now my concerns, I have no idea what is taking them so long to get into the northern part of the country I realize they are cut off by road due to the two nuclear power plants that are in trouble, but why don't they redirect the Ronald Reagan and Strike Group CSG 7 to the northern part of the island instead of Tokyo?

 

[SPOONMAN1]

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There is no way I beleive that the primary reactor containment hasn't been breeched, the severity is yet to be detirmined. If the public can evacuate to a safe distance and the wind doesn't screw them,they will seal it up in some form or fashoin with minimal exposure to the public.

 

[LippCJ7]

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Latest reports are that radiation levels are increasing, looks like they may finally lose it, dang I was pulling for them

 

[rbh]

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+1 on the Japanese construction practices, the wife worked for a log home MFG up here and sold to the Japanese market, all the logs grade A+, less than 10% knots or even clear.

Just had a little flash back to 1986, was over in northern Norge/Norway on a nato EX a week after chernobly (sp), and if I remember it right all food/fresh rats was brought in from spain or south, and my doss/dose meter was a little hot after a month.

 

[LippCJ7]

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Check this out, from what I know, we have been watching the fight to cool down reactor no.1 for the last 24 hours, according to the BBC the increase in radiation is from reactor no.3.


it just keeps getting better......

there are rumored to be 3 other reactors in Japan in trouble at this point

 

[LippCJ7]

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CNN News just reported: "we are assuming a Nuclear Meltdown has occurred" Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary stated

Also Japan has declared a state of emergency at 3 reactors now

 

[LippCJ7]

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not that anyone isn't up to date but here it is, Reuters is reporting that 3 reactors are in various stages of meltdown but give credit to the Japanese as all indications are that radiation levels thus far have been kept at relatively low levels nowhere near three mile island or chernobyl levels

The tsunami clearly looks to be the major disaster in this when you consider the greatest loss of life

The earthquake has been readjusted as a 9.0

Now there is a Volcano erupting on the southern part of Japan

Does anyone know who the japanese pi$$ed off?

 

[jrs_diesel]

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I personally do not think another Chernobyl will happen here in Japan. Keep in mind that the reactor design at Chernobyl was a Soviet design that had no sort of containment structure to speak of (aside from the reactor vessel itself), not like modern reactor designs like we have here in the U.S., Europe, Japan, etc. that have both a primary and secondary containment building plus the reactor vessel.

 

[SPOONMAN1]

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I spent two years @ Millstone. Close to Groton.

 

[Bigprairie1]

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Unbelieveable....the loss of life there has yet to be fully determined and it is only going to get exponentially worse.
They said the damage at this point is estimated to be $170 Billion and climbing....imagine what that does to a country when it happens within a few days let alone losing 10,000+ people and finding several million people homeless with water, sanitation, etc.
Crap....., I'm not sure we fully understand and get it here in North America and by we, I certainly emphasize 'me' in that.
A very faint silver lining is the way the rest of the world (hopefully) shows up and lines up to help other countries and people back into safety and onto their feet.
BP