Please read my post about the tilt/trim on my 85hp johnson. <br /> http://www.iboats.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=17;t=032854#000007 <br /><br />BTW, You were right about the water deflectors and thermostat in the same motor. both were bad. <br />Thanks,<br />Rich