johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

kevkc123

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i recently received a sea horse 10 that i believe is a 1957 when cleaning my grandfathers garage after his passing. problem is motor seems to run on one cylinder when motor is under load. it responds to throttle increase and decrease nice out of water, but lags on the lake. i've replaced plugs and wires and cleaned the carb to no avail. i am going to replace o-rings in the fuel connectors tomorrow(ail connection is leaking), if this doesn't help where to next?<br /><br />kevkc123<br /><br />ps- i have clymer shop manual for large range of old johnson motors if that will help me out
 

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

sorry, that should be AIR connection is leaking
 

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

Kevin - A really common problem with those engines is that the ignition coil cracks from age, and arcs over at high rpms. Fortunetly, since OMC used the ignition coils from the early '50s through the late '70s, they are cheap and available. Since the ignition system is completly indepenant cylinder to cylinder, it's really common to only loose spark to one cylinder.<br />The ones I get usually look something like this:<br />
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<br /><br />To confirm this, try pulling one of the spark plug leads. If there's no change, that's your good cylinder. If it dies, that's your bad one.<br />To inspect the ignition coil, you'll need to remove the flywheel. For that, you need a puller that employs the three bolt holes near the hub of the flywheel. If you use a puller that pulls from the edges, it will break the flywheel.<br /><br />You should replace both ignition coils, points and condensors. If you shop around, you can get all that for about $50. Under a hundred if you don't shop.<br /><br />The other thing you need is a service manual. Iboats sells aftermarket ones. You can get an OEM one here or here. <br />Your local library may be able to lend you one too. <br />You'll need it since there's a number of adjustments you'll need to make after installing the new points and coil.<br /><br />EDIT: I see you already have one. They clymer manual should be helpful if it covers small OMC engines made in the 50's and 60's. <br /><br />Do not rev the engine in neutral or out of the water! That engine will run-away, turn up to incredible RPMS, and fly apart. You don't want to do that to something that's survived 50 years! If you've run that engine without any water supply, you have already destroyed your water pump's impeller. You'll need to replace it. If not, it's a good idea to replace it anyway.<br /><br />PS - A QD-19 is a 1958, 10hp engine.<br /><br />Good luck!
 

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

Paul,<br />You said" try pulling one of the spark plug leads. If there's no change, that's your good cylinder. If it dies, that's your bad one."<br /><br />I think you ment the other way around, if you pull a plug wire and there's no change, that's the cylinder that's not firing..(bad...)<br /><br />Correct me if I have this wrong... :D
 

Paul Moir

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Ohhhh, That explains what I've been doing wrong all this time! :D <br />Thanks Xcusme, looks like Kevin's engine isn't the only thing firing on 1 cylinder.<br /><br />'Thanx Xcusme' - that sounds awfully polite... :)
 

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My own personal moments of dyslexia provide me with hours of laughter and amusement. :eek: I've acually become very comfortable with it in recent years. I'm glad to know that I'm not the only one!! ;) <br />"...Kevin's engine isn't the only thing firing on 1 cylinder" HA HA HA ...Too funny :D :D
 

kevkc123

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

awesome info paul!<br /><br />i checked the spark on both plugs and they are both good, and when on the water the second cylinder tends to kick on intermittently and sometimes stays on after a while--sorry i didn't tell you guys before. as to testing it out of water, i used a 55 gallon drum on it's side with a slot cut out to fit the motor in up to the cavitation fins( hack job test tank :cool: ) and no prop and i didn't top out the throttle; only checked the response of the engine to the increase of throttle so i hope the impeller is still ok. the update on the year is appreciated and barring any better suggestions based on the information i left out before i will check the points and the coil. also, is there any chance i have a compression leak in one of the cylinders(once the boat increases speed on the water and the load on the prop is decreased the bad cylinder can hold compression and fire better if not normally) and do you have any suggestions regarding oil/fuel ratio(read related posts and currently running 50:1). thanks for the help and please respond with more suggestions<br /><br />ps-- i love this site and all the help it gives younger people like myself trying to enjoy the sport we all love to be frustrated by! :)
 

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

Hi Kevin,<br /> First thing - DOUBLE UP on your oil! That motor NEEDS a 24:1 mixture. Some may lean it out to 32:1, but they know their particular motor and what they're feeding it. Your motor has bronze bearings on the crank mains and piston wrist pins and needs the extra oil.<br /> Run a compression test. Borrow a gauge or buy one from NAPA, Sears, etc. You want both cylinders to be in the 100 psi neighborhood and within 5% of each other.<br /> Let us know what you find with the coils. Your intermittent spark issue is classic old OMC mag problem with original parts... You can replace all of those parts for about $50.00 and have a mag that will be working when your grandkids get ahold of it...<br />- Scott
 

kevkc123

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Re: johnson 10 hp QD-19 no power

i can't work on it until probably this weekend but i am going to change the fuel ratio to 24:1, check compression and re-check spark by pulling a lead. if anyone has a better idea on how to test the engine under load and off the lake that would be great. i'm having trouble finding a test wheel and the lakes are still HARD to get a boat into cause of the ice(ha ha ha). one more thing- the rubber cone that holds the shear pin in the prop and prop shaft is missing, where can i get one? thanks again for the help!<br /><br />kevin
 
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