Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

AlanR

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Well in the spring I want to put my 150 GT on my 14ft fiberglass boat. The boat needs a new transom anyways cause it pulls pretty hard with my 30 Yamaha on it. So if I have to rebuild the transom and floor already why not just make it big enough to hold my 150. So heres my question... Any body got any ideas on how to hold my motor on so im not haulen it out of the lake after I take it out for a drive.. If any one has any pointers on what I should re en force before jammen this monster on it id appreicate it.. If it all works out ill post pics in the spring.
 

JB

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Well, the first thing you ought to do is take that 14 footer to the water, place 400 lbs on the transom and see if it still floats.
 

crunch

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

LMAO.... good one JB.

Uhhhh.... won't it be a bit over powered?
 

AlanR

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Ill try it JB ill get me and 2 guys to sit on the transom... And thats the point custom, To be alot over powered. Its rated for a 35 d:) But do you guys have any SENSABLE ideas to re en force my transom and make my motor stay on?
 

ondarvr

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

The strength of the transom isn't the issue, it can easily be made to hold the HP, it's if the boat can handle the speed, power and weight of a 150 without killing you.
 

AlanR

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

LOL! Well where should i start with the transom? Im thinken like steel bars from the transom to the floor.... Im only hopen when this is done its going to be a fast boat... d:)
 

alden135

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Why not twin 150's?
 

ondarvr

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

All you need is some extra glass, a brace or two and maybe an extra layer of plywood. But on 14 footers I've seen some with almost no reinforcement and they were rated like your's for a 35, or very beefy hulls that can take that 150. It's not just the transom that deterimes what HP it will handle, hull design is what will make it possible.
 

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

I saw a guy do that at an area lake. He couldn't goose the engine because the boat tried to flip. I gave up watching him after about 20 minutes, he never got it to plane.
 

Deimus

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

My grand father has a boat at the bottom of lake tahoe that was a mahogany racing boat that was grossly over powered. A little pit off on the trim setting and she stood straight up and went straight down. have fun, bring a camera and a life jacket.

Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of thoser doing it!:devil:
 

Deimus

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

My grand father has a boat at the bottom of lake tahoe that was a mahogany racing boat that was grossly over powered. A little pit off on the trim setting and she stood straight up and went straight down. have fun, bring a camera and a life jacket.

Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those doing it!:devil:
 

imported_Curmudgeon

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those doing it!

No one said it "couldn't" be done ... nor did they say stupid could be deterred by common sense. Famous last words: hey, guys, watch this! :^
 

deejaycee_2000

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Hey buddy ... now you know I am the man to speak to .... :) all you need is some good thick stainless steel, a couple of angle iron bits, some wood, bolts and fibre class ... oh yes and a good welder .... if I can make a 16 foot fibreglass boat run with a 200hp v6 yummy you sure as hell can make a 14 foot fibreglass run with a 150 .... not to even speak about my 8,5 foot inflatable with a 30hp on .... :) ... pm me with your e-mail adress I'll send you some pics of how I made the transom .....
 

AlanR

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Twidget said:
I saw a guy do that at an area lake. He couldn't goose the engine because the boat tried to flip. I gave up watching him after about 20 minutes, he never got it to plane.

Well.. Ill put cinder blocks and stones in the bow of my boat to help me planed8)
 

croSSed

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Wow! This is a really funny thread! Thanks for posting it! I needed a good laugh. BTW, that boat would be fun with a 150 on it. ASSUMING you could actually keep the wet side down.
d:)

TG
 

bassboy1

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

You said steel reinforcement NOOOOO. Use stainless or aluminum. Steel + Boat + Water = BADD.
 

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

This is a 14' Glastron Jet-Flite,.... 1961 vintage,... with an 80hp Merc.......

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When it Blew Up,.... I went to a Merc. 135hp, Tower of Power........

Ayuh,..... It was a Handful,+ I Scared Myself many times with it before I Blew that 1 up,........

I Still have the Hull,+ if I ever find the time,......
She'll swim Again with the 150hp Tower of Power I have mothballed in the garage..........
I Believe the old Merc.s were Much Lighter than that Johnnyrude you've got there,........

Btw,..... Rocks,.... or Any added Weight in the bow Isn't the Answer............
 

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

What style is your hull? Is it a flat bottom, semi V, deep V, pad bottom? How wide is the hull from chine to chine? These are questions you should ask yourself. The boat can be built to handle the weight and power, but frankensteining in a bunch of metal and crap is not the answer.

You need to gut it to the shell, remove the floor stringers, transom, all of it. You need to build the transom in layers of marine ply and epoxy as thick as the splashwell will allow, You can go more thick, but two inches of transom is enough for a 150 horse motor. You will need to glass in new stringers. On a 14 foot boat, sometimes there are no stringers or there are only a few and they are marginal. This depends on hull type of course.

Glass in braces from the transom to the stringers. Two should be adequate. They are refered to as "knees", maybe someone can post a pic of them. Glass in a new floor, and foam under the entire floor, more for structure than anything else, because a 14 foot boat does not have the under floor volume to hold enough foam to keep the boat afloat with a 150 horse motor on it. You take on water, that boat WILL sink, period. The reason I say to rebuild all of it is because the floor, transom, stringers and hull act as a single structure. You can't just beef up one, you need to beef them all up to get the most strength.

Once the boat is complete, you will probably end up with an ill handling and dangerous boat, but there are lots of those on the water. They are called bass boats...
 

AlanR

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

its a semi Deep V its nothing speical. Its a 1968 or 9 Traveller. Its rated for like a 35, Ye I was thinken just take out all the seats and stuff, put a peice of ply wood over the cockpit area and drill like a 1 inch whole in the top and fill it with spry foam it could work... Maybe?
 

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Re: Johnson 150GT on a 14ft Fiberglass boat...

Well at least the hull will float when you trash it.

Take Jason's advice and make it stronger then add your foam.
 
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