Johnson 28 carb connection? Missing something?

ChapBoater

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I have a 1963 Johnson 28 on a Sea King that I recently got. I rebuilt the carb, replaced coils, condensers, spark plugs and spark plug wires and went out to test it for the first time the other day. When its running I can get it to full throttle by opening the throttle plate on the carb but when I give it throttle on the lever up front it won't go past 1/5 open or so. I think I may be missing a linkage on the carb or the roller piece thing that makes contact with the flywheel plate. I attached a picture of where I think something should link to, you can see the small holes. I have a donor engine laying around that had the carb removed when I got it but it had this piece (2nd picture) attached to the linkage on the carb but I have no idea where it attaches to.

Thanks for any help!






 

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I have an evinrude the same year and hp. I just took a look at mine. It is in pieces but if I remember correctly the one end fits in the hole in the cam roller pictured in your second photo. And the other end attaches to the recoil starter some how. Just to add something I think that is just something that stops you from pulling the rope with the throttle advanced.
 
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When looking at the recoil from the front just to the right of the rope handle there is a threaded hole for a bolt and there is as slot for the that thin piece. You are missing a spring I think.
 

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That part is the recoil starter lockout, which prevents pulling the rope at high throttle settings. It has nothing to do with the throttle opening. The thing that opens the carburetor is the rod on the side of the powerhead. But don't just set it any old way. It must be adjusted correctly, a two-step process. I don't have time right now to post the instructions, but will later--unless somebody beats me to it. BTW, it must be completely in forward gear for the throttle to wide open.
 

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I will not be able to explain as detailed as Frank will....but will give you the basics and he can elaborate.

Your motor, as you may or may not know, has a Fuel Saver Arrangement. It allows you to run at wide open throttle, with full spark advance, yet it slightly closes the throttle butterfly, to limit the amount of fuel/air mix allowed into the powerhead. So, you get ABOUT the same performance, with less fuel use. To use, just advance the throttle to full, then when on plane, back off a touch.

That being said, I think that perhaps the collar, on the fuel saver linkage, may have become dislodged? You can just barely see the fuel saver linkage in your pic, it runs horizontal out of the screen shot, towards the rear aft of the motor.

To set it, shift your motor into forward gear, and set the throttle to FAST.

Now you must ensure that you get full spark advance. The armature plate bracket where your plug wires come out of, MUST get stopped, and touch the crankcase boss, or stop. Push the armature plate bracket against the boss.

Now take that collar I mentioned on the linkage, and slide it aft, or back, until it touches the pivot pin. When it does tighten the lock screw.

Now you need to adjust your linc n sync, or the synchronization of the carb and the spark setting.

Loosen the anchor screw, which is below the linkage bar that runs between the roller and the carb.

Turn the throttle until the hash mark on your brass cam, that the roller rides on, is aligned with the pointer which is cast right into the crankcase.

Now get a flat standard screw driver, and turn the nylon eccentric left or right, until the throttle plate just cracks open.

Now retighten that anchor screw.

You should now be good to get to the water, to fine tune the needles.

I know this was a lot, but if you post a wider pic of your motor, I can show you items discussed so you can visually see what we are saying.
 

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Also, I just re read your post, if I am reading correctly, when you advance the throttle from the remote control, you cannot get full advance on the motor. Your cables could need to be changed.
 

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Wow. Thanks for the write up! I will post a wider picture for sure.

I replaced the cables a few weeks ago, before knowing my engine had these features I thought maybe when I tightened the throttle cable into the lever I didn't have it far enough forward so that when I went full throttle the cable still had slack.
 

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Well said, High Trim. What I might add is simply this: Always disconnect the remote controls and make any adjustments to the motor. Then install and adjust the cables to fit the motor. Never adjust the motor to fit the cables.
 

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ChapBoater

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Going to be checking out your suggestions this afternoon! Here are the other pictures, tell you anything else?





 

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Need to see the port (left) side of motor. I cannot see the fuel saver arrangement mentioned.

I see that you are missing a spring for the lockout you just installed. See that oval type plate dangling on the rod down by your carb right now by the carb? Slide that up the rod, until it hits the stop. A spring runs between it, upwards, towards the recoil.
 

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Ya I just ordered the spring the other day, right now I just have it hanging until I get the spring
 

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You can see in the pictures Frank posted the collar I was referencing. He has it circled in red, the inset picture. That is what I wanted to see on your motor. I had said to slide it tight to the pivot pin. but leave that 1/32 gap between the pivot pin and the collar that the manual refers to.
 

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Your collar is in place - you can see it in the pics you uploaded. It's the slotted round bolt on the rod which goes forward to the cam follower. Adjust that as per instruction sheet which Frank previously posted.
 

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One of the steps you said to turn the throttle until the hash mark lines up with the mark on the cylinder. How should I "turn the throttle" on the fast slow start lever?
 

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Disconnect the remote throttle cable, then you can turn the throttle advance by hand. Advance it until the little arrow or projection to the left of the follower roller lines up with the mark on the cam (the brass part below the flywheel that the roller rides on). Now loosen the clamp screw and adjust the eccentric until the throttle butterfly just begins to open. Tighten the clamp screw. That's it!
 
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