Johnson Electrical Issues

ezbtr

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Not a stupid fishing topic, but I was electrically "challenged" last pm!

Was cleaning a light fixture that attaches to bathroom fan, wiped it down with a damp towel by kitchen sink, apparently my hands were still wet, (you know what's coming.....) plugged into outlet to see if light worked, it certainly did!!! Boy that "little" electromagnet sure activated!!! We had friends over for game - it took me about an hour to fess up to the cuss words that were heard in the kitchen..... :facepalm:
 
achris

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Electricity and water... Never a good combination!
 
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The engine won't even click when key is turned I measured 12.6 volts at plug. It's a 1970 60 hp. My guess is the fuse. What do talk think? Starter is good I tested it. Measured continuity from battery cables is good to slave solenoid. No voltage at starter however. Thanks again
 
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If the the choke solenoid clicks when the key is "on"-then the fuse is ok. If that functions, check be the starter solenoid.
 
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gm280

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Welcome aboard Tourtney :welcome: we like new boaters on here...

Sounds like you could have one of a few possible problems. You stated that you have battery voltage to the starter solenoid but the starter is not receiving anything. And you also stated that your starter was testing good. So are you getting any voltage on the starter solenoid to pull the solenoid in? I mean is the key switch applying a volt to the starter solenoid as well? If there is both battery voltage to the starter solenoid AND the key switch is applying voltage as well, then either the solenoid is not seeing a ground or it is defective. If you verified a proper ground, then replace the starter solenoid and go from there.
 
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Check the wee switch at the throttle arm on the motor.-----If equipped with that.
 
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It appears you have a voltmeter (multimeter). Don't guess, test. Easiest place to begin is at the two small terminals on the start solenoid, When you turn the key to start, there should be battery voltage on one of them, but not the other. If you have battery voltage on at least one, you know the fuse, key switch, and everything else is good as far back as your test point. If you have voltage on BOTH (and it doesn't click), the safety switch on the throttle arm is burned up, or disconnected, or the throttle is advanced too far. If the solenoid clicks, but the starter doesn't crank, the trouble is in the battery, cables, connections, or the starter itself. OR yes the solenoid is bad. You check that last item by checking for voltage at the starter when it clicks.

Don't be running out to buy a new solenoid till you prove it is bad by doing these simple tests.
 
Bosunsmate

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yes check fuse its in the engine bay as part of the wiring harness near the bottom usually in a red sleeve
 
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ezbtr said:
Was cleaning a light fixture that attaches to bathroom fan, wiped it down with a damp towel by kitchen sink, apparently my hands were still wet, (you know what's coming.....) plugged into outlet to see if light worked, it certainly did!!! Boy that "little" electromagnet sure activated!!! We had friends over for game - it took me about an hour to fess up to the cuss words that were heard in the kitchen..... :facepalm:
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An outlet by the kitchen sink should be ground fault protected. If you plugged it into the ceiling light outlet it would not be protected. What outlet did you plug it into?
 
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Seeing 12v at the selenoid post to activate it is not sufficient as it may not be a good strong ( curent carrying) voltage

have you tried taking a fresh solid 12 volts directly off the battery + post and applying it to the selenoid start post ???


it is important to properly clean your battery connections to ensure the passage of sufficent amps too both the selenoid coil (via the key) and ultimately the starter (via the energized selenoid)


a resistive contact in your key (start) will allow 12v to show up on the selenoid post and ...being resistive.... it would impede sufficint amps to pass and drive the selenoid coil winding.

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MTboatguy

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I know here in Montana, any plugs within 10 feet either side of the sink must be GFI plugs, if you have a standard plug that close to a sink, it could be a real problem.
 
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MTboatguy said:
I know here in Montana, any plugs within 10 feet either side of the sink must be GFI plugs, if you have a standard plug that close to a sink, it could be a real problem.
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Not just Montana, that's national electrical code, but this is only for new and remodel homes. If it's an old house it may not be updated
 
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My question is not about the GFIC, but how did the lamp have any live voltage on it in the first place? If it was properly wired, there would be nothing but ground on the hardware metal of the lamp. So it seems that lamp also is questionable...
 
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gm280 said:
My question is not about the GFIC, but how did the lamp have any live voltage on it in the first place? If it was properly wired, there would be nothing but ground on the hardware metal of the lamp. So it seems that lamp also is questionable...
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My thoughts too.
 
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I fixed it, the system cache still has it saved. Something is wrong with your browser. All that junk shouldn't be there. And it looks like you copied the code. Make sure you click "Console" and select only the stuff in the dialog box below console.
 
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