Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

nphilbro

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I tried out a 1999 Suzuki (which they made for Johnson and look identical from what I can see and have read) 4-stroke this weekend to use as a kicker for my 20ft deep-V fiberglass boat. The motor ran great, started instantly, no gripes in that regard. It didn't sound like it was idling really high- as in racing, but I couldn't get a troll speed less than 2.5/3 mph, even on this heavy boat. It has incredible torque and it was a bit too much to use to load on the trailer easily because I had to go in and out of gear to make corrections. I need a kicker for slow trolling and trailering since my main is a 200hp.

I'm extremely familiar with 2-stroke motors but I don't want to apply any of that here without some direction.

There is a spring screw on the throttle/carb body that I can adjust to lower the idle speed. I admit that I adjusted it counter-clockwise some while we were fishing yesterday to try to get my trolling speed down to 1 - 1 1/2 mph and it slowed a little but the motor didn't seem like the fuel/air/timing were right when I did that and set it back. I had to go in/out of gear to run slow enough and I know that's not good. My 25hp Evinrude 2-stroke would let me run slower and faster - but not nearly as efficiently or quietly.

There is a jet on the side of the carb opposite the throttle adjustment. I haven't touched it yet so don't know if it is fixed or variable. My hunch is that this issue is correctable but requires more than adjustment.

If I find this condition is correctable and I can adjust it to my needs I will keep the motor and buy a manual. If it isn't, then I'm not keeping it. I'm also not going to buy a lower pitch prop since it is using the one from the factory and would only limit the speed range more.

Anyone have input or experience?
 

boobie

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Re: Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

A model # would help ??
 

nphilbro

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Re: Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

The Suzuki # is DF 9.9ELW (Serial 00991F- 86XXXX) - Which is a '98 apparently based on the serial number
The Johnson version from what I can tell is possibly E10FRLECM 1998??? While it seems to be common knowledge that Johnson also branded the Suzuki motors in that year, I can't find a parts diagram that I can cross to be sure which were the OMC version and which were the Suzuki.

I AM a J/E guy...I can tear an Evinrude 2-stroke 9.9 down and rebuild with my eyes shut these days, but the world of 4-stroke is all new to me. The key component I was looking for to cross was the oil filter and timing belt.

[E10FRLECM"]http://shop2.evinrude.com/Index.aspx?s1=8k5ermv8tr30u76lqigm9v22k1&catalog_id=0&siteid=1[/URL]
[DF 9.9]http://store.brownspoint.com/df99-01/9_9.asp[/URL]
 
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boobie

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Re: Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

Go to shop.evinrude.com and look under Johnson with the model # J10FRLECM. Find the carb break down. The idle mix screw is # 15. The idle speed screw is # 32. Try playing around with those and see what happens. You will also find the other parts you want there.
 

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Re: Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

The 9.9 and 15 4-strokes are not Suzuki engines like the bigger ones. Some made in US, some in Hong Kong. H in the mod number indicates a Hong Kong version.
 

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Re: Johnson/Suzuki 1999 9.9hp 4-stoke idle speed is high

Thanks for the info Haff. Didn't know about the Hong Kong deal. Good old OMC. LOL.
 
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