Late 70's Johnson 35 hp question

wjhuskey

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I'm looking at buying a Johnson 35 hp outboard (I think 1977 year model). The seller measured the shaft for me - I need a 15" shaft, I believe it's the right shaft but can I confirm it by the serial number plate? Plate says Model # 35E77H Serial # E4687702. I have got to MAKE SURE it's a 15" shaft before making the 200 mile trip to get it. Also, are these good motors? Do they have a good reputation for being dependable and durable? Thanks in advance.
 

racerone

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It is 43 years old.----Could be a good one.----Could be 12 cents / lb scrap too.----Model # indicates short when it left the factory.---5" extension kits were available.
 

wjhuskey

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Thanks for the reply racerone. Proud to hear it's definitely a factory short shaft model number. I'm going to listen to it run before buying. 2 more questions:
1. What should I offer the seller after hearing it run?
2. How expensive is it to have these little motors rebuilt (if needed later) or is it even still possible to have them rebuilt?
 

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Not sure I would take a 200 mile trip without seeing at least a few photos of what I was buying. That said, If you post a pic it will be easy enough to tell what you are picking up.
These are certainly good quality and dependable outboards "IF" they are taken care of throughout their lifetime. Like anything purchased used...it's always a crap shoot! You can come across outboards that were pampered and those that have lived a very rough life. That said, you could come across one that will last you another 50 years, or one that you'll end up breaking down immediately and selling for parts to try to get your money back! ;)

Like the other poster stated, this outboard left the factory as a short shaft. However, that doesn't mean that within 40+ years that it wasn't modified to become a long shaft. Pics will reveal that.
On another note...if you do end up with a long shaft accidentally...I might be interested in the drive shaft from it. :)

I've included a pic of my '76 factory long shaft (without a lower unit). Notice the extended area below the lower mount on the exhaust housing? That 6" section below the mount makes it a long shaft. A factory short shaft will have about a 1" section/band below that lower mount, instead of the 6" section. Furthermore, a modified long shaft will have an added 5" spacer added to it to make it resemble mine. It will be a pretty obvious modification, but again, pictures will reveal this immediately.

I wouldn't necessarily shy away from buying a short shaft that was modified. Even though you may have to buy a few parts to turn it back into a shorty, you can always sell the long shaft parts (to offset costs). You will also have the parts to use it on other boats...OR...you can always sell it as a "both" engine. Modified shorties are (IMO), better than a factory long shaft for that reason, but I'm sure that is up for debate.

Good luck with the purchase! :)
 

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wjhuskey

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Of course, I have already seen pictures of it and I'm having the seller also send me a video of it running before I even make the trip...and I will also ask to hear it run in person. It looks like it could use a good cleaning but under the hood looks much better. Here is a picture. (I had to crop it some so it'd fit)
 

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JohnnyMat

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Yup, definitely a factory short shaft (as per codes) and is still a short shaft (as per photo). You should be good to go!
It looks like it should clean up pretty nicely too.
Good luck with it...I hope the engine works out for you!
 

wjhuskey

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Thanks. I've bought older motors like this before and they only lasted a couple years before they were done for. But since this is the perfect motor for my vintage boat, could I have it rebuilt needbe? What does a rebuild usually cost for a motor like this?
 

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You would be shocked at what a big shop would charge for work like a rebuild on that.-----Also just to find a shop to take that on may be a challenge.------Say $2000 as a ball park figure.
 
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