looking for a power tilt and trim?

[Cold Atlantic]

I have a 1987 Johnson J50BELCUD 50hp VRO. I would really like power tilt and trim. The boat the motor came off from didnt have the wiring set up for it or controls for it. What do i need to accomplish this. I have found a couple used ones but do not know what to cross reference them with from other motors. I am not sure what to look for. New is not in the budget. Were should I start?

AL

 

[5150abf]

CMC makes one, you bolt it to the transom and the motor to it, they also , even used, are spendy.

This is not a budget friendly problem, any solution is going to be spendy.

Ebay obviously for used tt but you never know what you are getting, you are buying 20+ year old parts

 

[Scott Danforth]

the cheapest and easiest way to convert a 31 year old motor to PTT is done in 3 steps

sell your existing motor for small pile of cash
empty contents of wallet onto pile of cash making it bigger
take bigger pile of cash and buy a motor with PTT

many times this can be done in a weekend with very little extra cash and it is cheaper and easier than adding something

 

[Lightwin 3]

I've done it twice.

Once on a 1976 50 HP. Found a tilt only unit on FleaBay and it worked fine.

Another was on a 1989 SPL 88. Again, found a unit on the auction site and installed it, worked fine.

The 88 I had is probably closer to what you have as opposed to the old 50.

You will need the complete TNT unit with HARNESS.

If it doesn't come with the unit, you will need a TNT control handle for your control box-easy swap. Or, you can use a Momentary On-Off-On switch mounted somewhere else. I had three switches on the 88. One on the control handle, one in the bow and one near the transom.

If you have the harness, the wiring is pretty simple. Even if you don't it's not difficult.

Look at this item on Ebay: 183177530249

This one may be close. A look through the parts catalog will tell.

 

[racerone]

The 88 and older models had a power trim system with 2 cylinders mounted OUTSIDE of the swivel bracket.

 

[Lightwin 3]

The 88 and older models had a power trim system with 2 cylinders mounted OUTSIDE of the swivel bracket.

Don't agree.

The earlier units from the 70's until..... had brackets with outboard cylinders. Laer units were all self contained within the swivel bracket.

1989 model year 88 SPL had TNT as an OPTION, Many dealers installed it.

The same year 90 HP version (TNT standard) of TNT fit right in the bracketry. Same engine as the 88 for the most part, sans TNT.

 

[racerone]

Lightman-----What you talk about ???-----This OP says he has a 50 hp model from 87 and those had the external cylinders !!

 

[Lightwin 3]

I can't speak for a 50. Just saying what I ran across and did.

He/she can find one if he/she wants to do the work of exploring and mechanically.

Just shutting them down is not the right option.

The 50 of that vintage (87) may have had a similar unit to my 76. Tilt only.

Hey, it's 35 years ago.

 

[racerone]

So you are not aware of the difference in a 2 cylinder trim system of 1988 and older and V-4 systems ??

 

[flyingscott]

The unit the Op needs is not cheap even used because the demand is very high for them. The best bet is get a cmc or panther lift. The 3 cylinder motors up to the V6 motors used a very similiar unit from about 78 and up to the mid 90s. The 2 cylinder motor had it's own specific unit up until the late 80s.

 

[Lightwin 3]

So you are not aware of the difference in a 2 cylinder trim system of 1988 and older and V-4 systems ??

I am.

We had two V-4's with the "added" bracket and two outboard cylinders. One 85 and a 115..

I edited my post above. That 50 may have only had the option of Tilt only as it seems. And, WITH a bracket like my old 76-50.Not afraid to stand corrected but don't just want to shoot a dream down. It can be done-at least tilt.

And yes, a CMC unit. is probably the best answer

 

[racerone]

No----The 2 cylinder 50 in the 1980's up to 1988 had a trim system with the EXTERNAL cylinders !

 

[Lightwin 3]

You're right. Bracket with "outboard" ram bracket. Much like our "70's" units.

When you're wrong you're wrong.

 

[flyingscott]

You CANNOT fit an ealy 70s and before tilt unit onto a newer model motor. That is like apples and oranges not to mention the mounting brackets were all changed in the late 70s. The older models are external tilt only cylinder. The OPs model would have had external trim rams and a small tilt ram they are not the same.

 

[Cold Atlantic]

I have a 87 Johnson would a 93 Evinrude t&t work? I found one on CL.

 

[racerone]

You have to be clear !------93 T&T off what model ?

 

[Cold Atlantic]

I found a couple
Take off a 50 hp 1993 Evinrude. This one may not work. It is a whole motor.

And this one
Removed from 1995
70hp Evinrude Johnson 3 cyl outboard. $250

 

[racerone]

The 70 hp will not work.-----The 50 hp likely will not work.