looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

yourkiddin

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im a honorable discharged vet with a 750 credit score. i bought my house through charter bank. then the loan was sold to bbt financial. ive never been late but wanted to refinance. there is what is know as a streamline refi that vets can do. no money out of pocket. sounds like a great plan. i know this is long but wanted to give some background. anyway i went to bbt thinking this would be the easiest. its been two months and a battle with loan originator just to get phone call or e-mails returned. this really started when we tried to hash out discrepancys in the closing cost. when he would fix one there would be another. just when we got a close date and felt good about the loan, another problem comes up. we go to the attorneys office at 10am. only to be told that our property taxes of 1856.00 has not been paid. its now been added to our payoff on the hud 1. we have an escrow account. we pay it every month and its setting in bbt account. we are told if we wanted to clos, we would have to write a check for the tax amount. the loan originator was not there. we cant get him to return calls. my taxes was to be paid on nov 15th. im getting letters in mail and interest added on. he emails me this morning to say we can close at 3pm if we bring 700 dollars to closing. because our escrow account is short that much after the taxes were paid. problem is property tax office says they haven't been paid and the account is short 52 dollars. the other thing is i financed the 1st year of escrow in the original loan amount. im thinking i should be ahead a year. as i said i know this is long but any feedback would be appreciated. i just feel im getting screwed. they gave a 4% which drops loan almost 300 a month. i just cant make it to closing. and to start all over is going to be another headache.
 

bruceb58

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Not sure what the problem is. Log on to the county's tax website to see if the taxes are paid. Even if they were, you will get a credit at closing time.

I just refinanced my house with no points and just a $400 charge for the appraisal so these no cost loans are being done all the time right now.
 

dbkerley

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Pretty much what I'm doing now as well. There just no point in holding too much equity right now.
 

PiratePast40

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Just closed on a house a few weeks ago with a VA loan. Took about a month from start to finish. They locked the rate at 4%. We had to pay the remainder of the current years taxes up front as a part of the closing costs.

Thats not the same as a refi but the loans are out there. Might try a different bank. You've allready gone through most of the process so it shouldn't take long at another bank.
 

Brewman61

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

I'm curious about that statement as well.

Going in as a new buyer, you will probably have to put a significant down payment into the property- hence equity. If you have an existing property, and are fortunate enough to have equity it's a good thing. If you want to refi, it will certainly make a prospective lender more likely to extend a loan.
People with no or who are upside down will be in trouble if they need to sell.

Having an equity stake in your property is not a bad thing at all.

Offering loans to people without requiring them to have any skin in the game, or worse, to lend above the appraised value of the property (125% loans!) was a very foolish thing to do, and it's aggravated the real estate meltdown.
 

Fireman431

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

What area of the country are you in?
 

bassman284

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Curious by what you mean by that.

Well, I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing he's talking about a cash out refi whereby you refi for more than the existing mortgage and take the remainder in cash to use for your own purposes. E.g. when I refied my condo a couple of years ago, my mortgage was $74,000 and the appraisal was $135,000. I could have taken a mortgage for $108,000 without any mortgage insurance and kept the $34,000 difference in my pocket. Or spent it on toys.
 

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Well, I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing he's talking about a cash out refi whereby you refi for more than the existing mortgage and take the remainder in cash to use for your own purposes. E.g. when I refied my condo a couple of years ago, my mortgage was $74,000 and the appraisal was $135,000. I could have taken a mortgage for $108,000 without any mortgage insurance and kept the $34,000 difference in my pocket. Or spent it on toys.

That's just silly, unless you use the money to buy cash flowing properties. SOOO many people bought cars and tvs and boats and other toys like that, and now they are screwed!
 
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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

Rule number one...NEVER BORROW A FRICKIN DIME YOU DONT HAVE TO...thats all I can say
 

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

and now they are screwed!

Gonna happen to a great many folks when the mortgage interest deduction goes away ... :eek:
 

Brewman61

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

and now they are screwed!

Gonna happen to a great many folks when the mortgage interest deduction goes away ... :eek:

I'm still not ready to believe they'd actually get rid of that, at least on a primary residence. I could see this happening to mortgages on second homes, and possibly HELOC's and the like.
It'd be political suicide to do it for the primary home- can you imagine the uproar it'd cause?

Once you toss out the mortgage deduction, the other itemized deductions become way less valuable in relation to the standard deduction.

Munching popcorn waiting to see if it actually happens........
 

bruceb58

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

I doubt it will go away. Personally, I would be willing to give up my motrgage deduction if we had a flat tax...which will also not happen.

I live in CA where housing prices and the mortgages that go with them are huge. States like mine would really suffer the most. Also, home prices are propped up artificially with the mortgage deduction. If it went away, the prices would drop accordingly.
 

yourkiddin

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Re: looking for a refi specialist or someone that can relate.

this was just a rate reduction. heres e-mail i sent loan originator.
as of today,if we include monday its been four days again with no response from you. when we started this we explained our original loan complications to you. we did not want the same type of problems as with charter bank. i can honestly say this has been far worse of an experiance. i have a friend that started his refi with wells fargo after i did. he has closed three weeks ago. wells fargo went to their residence, rolled the taxes over, it was not a problem. just as you said it would be rolled over. but for some unknown reason this has not happened. even the day we went to attorneys office you would not answer the phone and failed to call us back. the secretary having the documents wrong, having to keep getting the numbers hashed out. so heres the situation now. if you had not heard from tammy cox at suntrust here in lagrange, you should soon. she needs the loan number and also needs to confirm that this loan has not closed. i also will be talking with wells fargo to see who can do better for us. i thought i was doing the right thing by coming to bbt. especially since i had not been late on my payments and had a fairly decent credit score. and lets not forget being a veteran. but obvious none of that mattered. maybe someone else will welcome our business and give us a true streamline loan. with no money out of pocket as i am entitled.

this was their response.

In our research to make sure that you would not pay the county taxes twice, we found out that the taxes in your escrow account were disbursed yesterday. Now we will not need to collect the 2010 taxes at closing, and therefore you should not have to bring funds to close.



Kristi - please notify the attorney that (my name) 2010 taxes have been paid and there is no need to collect them now, and have them update the HUD to reflect it. We will also need to reschedule the close for early next week at the client's convenience.
 
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