Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

Toledo48

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Greetings everyone!!!!

Here is my problem: I have a 1989 VRO 225 Rude, and the engine runs fine, but is hard starting. I have adjusted Idle timing according to the manual, and it is at 6 degrees as the manual calls for and was done after the engine was warmed up. Now every time I start the motor when cold it takes several tries. Usually between 5 or 6. I know it has the quick start feature and I believe it is not engaging. I never hear the engine idle up. Also once the engine is warm you should hear it engage every time you restart motor for about 5 to 10 seconds (does not happen). I have checked for voltage on the white with black stripe wire from the pack and it reads 0 volts. So I am sure the issue lies from the power pack and back. I called CDI electronics and they told me to get a 9 volt battery, and then rig it with a jumper. They then said to disconnect the black with white wire feeding the power pack from the timer base. Once done I should hook the pos side of the 9 volt to the black with white stripe wire coming from the timer base, and then ground the negative side to the engine block, and then start the motor. Then if quick start engages the pack is bad, if it don't the timer base is bad. I am kinda leery about doing this as I do not want cause any further damage to the system. I am hoping someone out there has a had similar issue, with a better solution. Any help would be appreciated. Joe if you are still here your input would be greatly appreciated since you are the for most expert on these outboards.
 

boobie

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Re: Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

I'd follow CDI's advice. Loss of QS could be a bad power pack, bad power coil in the stator or a grounded white/ black wire.
 

emdsapmgr

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Re: Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

I don't think you will hear quickstart "engaging." It lshould automatically activate every time you start the engine. What you will hear is the engine idle decreasing about 200 rpm's when quickstart cancels. Quickstart will automatcially activate every time the engine is started on these scenarious: On a cold powerhead-till the block heats up to 97 degrees. Once the engine runs and warms up, quickstart will activate for 5 seconds every time the engine is started. Quickstart is cancelled automatically once the engine goes above 1100 rpm's. Quickstart is an automatic advance of the spark timing at idle to improve idling when the powerhead is cold. It probably does not have much to do with an engine that won't start easily. You might want also to check the choke solenoid for proper operating when the key is depressed to choke the engine.
 

boobie

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Re: Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

If you have good "ears" you wil know when it's in QS when first starting. Sounds like it's missing and when it comes out of QS the mtr slows down and idles at the proper speed.
 

clanton

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Re: Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

6 degrees ATDC or BTDC it makes a difference, should be ATDC.
 

boobie

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Re: Loss of Quick Start 1989 VRO 225

You can also tell if QS is working by putting a timing light on it and watching the timing marks. When in QS the marks will be very erractic and when it comes out it will settle down to it's normal timing.
 
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