lower unit gear oil 1968 20hp Merc, is real oil better than synthetic

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charly1954

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I been searching the net 2-3 days for the best gear lub to use on my 50 yr old Merc 200 20hp. Found some input here and other sites/forum. I don't know when synthetic oil was first made but I was thinking older vintage motors like mine real oil might be best for them instead of synthetic.

Our local Walmart and Walmart online dosen't have the 80w90 only the synthetic, local auto parts store the same no Merc. 80w90 just the High Performance synthetic. Searched more online and I see why, the oil is cost more than the syntheitic.

So is real oil better for older engines than synthetic. In my search Quicksilver HP cost more than Quicksilver synthetic.

Don't know if its true but one article said once you switch to synthetic you can't go back to real oil. Here's the link and part of the article.
https://www.outboardmotoroilblog.com...o-synthetic-2/

"synthetic oils also cost more than conventional mineral oil, and it’s important to note that the switch, if made, is permanent. The additives in synthetic oil replace all of those in conventional motor oil, but synthetic oil also contains different molecules. These molecules work to preserve the condition of your engine while synthetic oil is being used, but if mineral oil which doesn’t have these molecules is used after the engine has adapted to synthetic, the absence of the molecules can cause engine damage."
 
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Wal-mart has Super-tec lower unit lube works just fine in your motor. https://www.walmart.com/search/?quer...%20gear%20lube
That article is a bunch of BS. Any 2 strk motor uses a total loss oil system. That means the oil goes through the motor and is not recirculated. So where do these molecules stay. Your engine does not know the difference between synthetic and regular oil. The only thing that article proves is any idiot can write a blog. I have mixed synthetics with conventional oil and never had a problem.
 
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I'm pretty sure you are just referring to the gear oil correct? stick with quick silver gear-oil.
I have use regular high pressure 80-90 gear oil however they say it can foam more. but I'v never seen any negative effects.
viscosity is key!
I agree with flyingscott specially if we just talking about the lower-unit
 
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Once again here is proof that oil and lubrication and how oil actually ----" works "----Is a big mystery.---Always entertaining reading.
 

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Once again here is proof that oil and lubrication and how oil actually ----" works "----Is a big mystery.---Always entertaining reading.

Good morning Racerone,:tea:

I'm glad we're amusing you lol & please elaborate on how oil actually works
 

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Yes, and how will Mr. blog explain synthetic blends ??? for engine oil
But was charly1954 not just referring to gear-oil for the LU??
 

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Yes I " actually " read that.----Had to put my rubber boots on.-----So tell me what a " hydro-dynamic wedge " is ?---Perhaps use google on that.------Tell me why a water skier at rest stands on the bottom of the lake but at speed it holds him up.-----Is the water a lubricant and the ski the " bearing ?-----How about the propshaft on an inboard boat and the cutlass rubber bearing , how does that work in water ?----How about a boat itself at speed the water is the lubricant and the boat is the " bearing " held up by the hydro-dynamic wedge.-----Or bearings are generally round but they do not need to be !-----Round shapes are the CHEAPEST to manufacture !!-----No doubt you have seen / heard the term ---" highway miles " in a sales pitch for a used vehicle.----What do you understand by that term ?
 

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Once again here is proof that oil and lubrication and how oil actually ----" works "----Is a big mystery.---Always entertaining reading.

I get it now! you were referring to blog and not to flyingscott & me
 
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Yes, and how will Mr. blog explain synthetic blends ??? for engine oil
But was charly1954 not just referring to gear-oil for the LU??

Sorry for the long post here.

Yes I am only talking about gear lube for my vintage 68 Merc 20hp lower unit gears. Not asking about engine lubricant mine uses gas/oil mixture for engine lubricant. I am sorry if I wasn't clearer and sorry if my post causes any disagreement.

I have been using real oil not synthetic for this motor since 1998. Last I bought 5-6 yrs back was from NAPA listed below. Since my motor is 50 yrs old I want to used whats best for it.

In my town here's a list what I have to choose from, I may just have to go out of town to find the best for old engines. That's why I posted here cause I figure you guys would know whats best for vintage Mercury motors.

Walmart store
1 qt-Quicksilver Marine High performance synthetic
1 qt-Super Tech 80W90 API GL-5 (not marine details say it fights against foam but doesn't say any anti-foam additives)

Walmart online(shipped to local store)
1 qt Super Tech MarineGear Lube API GL-5 80W-90

Rural King
1 qt HK Harvest King API GL-5 80W90 (not marine details say it protects against rust/foam but doesn't say any anti-foam additives)

Napa
10 oz tube CRC Marine Hypoid 90 API GL-5 80W90

3 Auto parts stores
Only one store has Marine grade and it the Quicksilver Synthetic HP.
 
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You should only use marine 80w90 in that motor. Conventional oil is fine.The main difference between marine lube and regular lube is it's ability to handle water intrusion. I use the walmart Super tec in all my motors from a 1955 Scott to my 1992 Evinrude 70 hp. It is a good lube that works well.
 

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Quick answer is the usual quicksilver premium gear oil. No need for high performance synthetic blend product.
 

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Guess I shouldn't have listed the Reg 80W90 oil, I do know not to use oil that doesn't protect against foaming. I've read that allot of foaming can blow the seals. The only reason I did list the ones I did was because in their details it stated fights/protects against foam.

I found many other Regular 80W90 oil in town but they didn't have fights/protects against foam so I did not list them. I only listed oils that said either Marine or protect against foam.
 

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I use marine 80W90 gear lube in my older motor than yours. Depending what store I'm in, I get the Wally World Super Tech, Pennzoil High Viscosity or Quicksilver Premium for 75 HP or lower motors. All dino, no synthetic and work with no problems.
 

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I use marine 80W90 gear lube in my older motor than yours. Depending what store I'm in, I get the Wally World Super Tech, Pennzoil High Viscosity or Quicksilver Premium for 75 HP or lower motors. All dino, no synthetic and work with no problems.

Only place I can find QS Premium is thru online stores or ebay and shipping cost is high. I can get the Super Tech Marine 80W90 shipped free to my WW store in 2-3 days. I think they did have the Pennzoil or Valvoline at WW but I'm thinking it was not 80W90 might have said 75W??
 

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From all the research online plus the input from this forum it looks like the best would be QS Premium 80W90. If I can't find it at a reasonable price I'll probably settle on Super Tech Marine 80W90 or the small 10oz tube Napa has. Its pretty costly at $7 for 10oz. I bought a qt bottle pump and want to use it don't like to use the tube squirt method.
 

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Only place I can find QS Premium is thru online stores or ebay and shipping cost is high. I can get the Super Tech Marine 80W90 shipped free to my WW store in 2-3 days. I think they did have the Pennzoil or Valvoline at WW but I'm thinking it was not 80W90 might have said 75W??

the # before the W is the rating for cold temp/ the # after the W is the rating for warm/hot temp
(it's more important to stay within on the warm side then the cold side)
not to be taken out of contrast
 
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