LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

steve201

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

well...he joined the army..he volunteered......he gave his oath like the rest of us to defend the constitution and to obey his superiors lawful orders....he is guilty of failure to obey a lawful order and spoke out against the military and his commander in chief...sorry...but he's guilty as sin and will be tried to the full extend of the UCMJ....this crap of taking it too the public is unthinkable.....it will only hurt his case....there is no case for him....and if I were one of his mates....I'd be tempted to have a midnight splainin party....hey..If the others had to go..why not him..what makes him so friggin special....he's a coward...pure and simple....but hey...I'm just an ex AF ......a soldier does as he's ordered and goes where he's told...to refuse is an unlawful act....there is no debating this one...
 

waterinthefuel

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

What Steve said. He went AWOL and will do prison time. That's fine with me.
 

ehenry

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

Correct me if I'm wrong....he went AWOL during a time of war....they could have shot him on sight couldnt they?
 

12Footer

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

A new John Kerry for the next genreation.... What would our children have done without one?
 

bjcsc

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

Traitor...he'll get his...


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JB

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

Now, now, guys.

He has only been accused.

After the Court Martial convicts him, THEN fry his butt.
 

bjcsc

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

JB: I'm guessing you haven't heard the numerous rebroadcasts of his speaches...many today...
 

steve201

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

and now those cowardly hollywierd types...aka sean penn is up here trying too support this coward....send all of them over and see how things change.......sorry..but when we have so many young people signing up to go over to iraq to defend us...these types come up here to creat havoc and press their bs ...that's a bit more than I'm willing to take......
if your not willing to defend this country then feel free to leave it.......but that's just my humble opinion....:devil:
 

JB

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

I share your passion, Steve, but the fact is that he hasn't been convicted of anything yet.

Let the system work.
 

steve201

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

believe me...I'm letting the system work.....it's the hollywierds that really get under my skin...........I think the trial is already over......I think that's what the news said....
 

POINTER94

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

When did the military become a democracy?
 

SoulWinner

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

In 20 years he'll run for president........as a democrat.....
 

Parrott_head

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

If he had suddenly become a consciouses objector to the was he should have changed so a support unit like the medical battalion or whatever. He took an oath and was aware of what it included.

I have little sympathy for him.

As for a person who games his military career in order to get his time in but not serve in combat, this has been done before.
 

xtraham

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

SoulWinner said:
In 20 years he'll run for president........as a democrat.....

and win.............
 

Link

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

Haut, your first troll !
And all by yourself.
PW and Ray will be proud of you!

Hero ???
Only a liberal would throw the word HERO at a Coward.
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The above was just a fun poke. 8)

Now... dot dot dot
I have a little different take on this because in real life his story
just doesn't add up. Unless I'm correct.

I have no proof or inside information to back this up.
Just my thoughts.

Lets look at what happened
1: I think he is a Coward
2: I think he is a Liberal Demon-crate whack job. (Sean Penn type)

I believe he (maybe with the help of others) planned this
whole thing before he ever enlisted to make this administration
and the military look bad.

Lets do the math.
A: He joined as enlisted after the war was started. DUH!
remember as enlisted he can't just resign but is on a X number
of years contract.
A1: If he tried it as enlisted he would look like a coward and
get very little media support.

B: After joining he applied for and became a Officer.
B1: knowing full well he could resign.
B2: knowing full well after spending all that money and time
training him as enlisted then as a officer they would most likely
not accept his resignation.

C: By trying to resign he can cop out that he tried, "they bad military / Bush" wouldn't let him do it..

D: He immediately went to the press. More likely they were just
waiting for his pre-planed resignation to jump all over it.

I believe in my number two choice (and he may have just
been a pawn like Cindy S) but,
in either case the military is within their full right to handle it
in a closed system where only military law applies.

Throw him in prison, then hang him high and maybe shoot him
afterwards. It's all ok with me,

Remember he did not apply as a consciouses objector.
He could have been re assigned. But he did not do this.
It's all politics with him.

Here is his down fall.

Short version:
As enlisted you swear an oath to obey the orders of the President of the United States and all Officers appointed
above you.

As an Officer.
You swear an oath to obey (not the president) but the laws as
put forth by congress.
And congress voted for the war.!

Rot in prison Watada
 

llfish

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

I have little sympathy for him.
He knew what he was getting into. Many of us had no choice and were drafted and followed orders.
 

JasonJ

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

He is a disgrace to the uniform...
 

imported_Curmudgeon

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Re: LT. Watada...Hero or Cowardly Traitor?

He is a disgrace to the uniform...

Not really. He started whining and the Army threw the BS flag. The uniform would have been disgraced had that not happened.

Hero? Hardly. Coward? Probably not. Traitor? Hard to see any "aid and comfort to the enemy" in this one. A freakin moron who went whining to Daddy when things got serious and the pucker factor shot up? Yep, that works ... :/
 
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