Lubricating a steering cable

Hunky Dory

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So, I bought the Dory on Ebay. The steering was stiff (as in: screamed for mercy when turned) and the obvious solution was to buy a new cable. But what cable do I need and how is it measured and will new cables mount to old boats and then attach to the steering without doubling the cost of the boat before I'm through?<br /><br />Besides, what self-respecting motorcyclist can't lube a cable?<br /><br />Of course, the answer was me! Those suckers are obstinate with swedged ends and racks and seals and tubes that cover the inner cable from any attempt at first aid! And if it was stiff on the boat it was impossible off...<br /><br />After three ineffective helm and full-cable removals it became a battle of will. There had to be a way to get to the interior short of a hacksaw or torch...<br /><br />Well, no. But I finally hit on something that matched the prognostications of that fortune cookie ('great joy and celebration' not 'wealth and beauty') and I am pleased to pass it on:<br /><br />First, let me mention that air pressure is going to be applied in unconventional ways and it could hurt you or your boat or your kids or your dog. Don't do this unless you can protect yourself/boat/kids/dog/bystanders from potential harm. I slid a length of poly pipe over the whole arrangement I'm about to describe. Nothing ever blew so I'm unsure what good or bad effect it might have had. <br /><br />The cable can be left in the boat. Remove the transom end. Remove all the mounting tubes and balls and junk. Adapt a short strong hose of suitable ID (5/8 in my case) to a quick release air fitting on one end and the cable's outer sheath end-fitting on the other (use a REAL GOOD hose). Double clamp. Arrange and secure hoses so a substantial sump occurs right at the cable end. <br /><br />Now, tie everything down to prevent damage in the event of bursting. Fill the hose-sump with Power Blaster penetrating oil or the slurry of your choice. Turn down the pressure on your air supply and disconnect the supply hose at the source. Attach the air hose to the quick release. Hide behind protection, attach the supply hose and turn up the air pressure to less than the burst strength of your hose. Go away.<br /><br />When you come back later the steering should be better. I'm sure you would never crank up the pressure to max killer force an leave it that way for days like someone I know too well (that's the use good hose part because judgment fades while obstinacy but feeds upon itself).<br /><br />Oh, I also turned the steering every once in awhile to help the PB ooze along the way (I took the pressure off while I did this). You might want a drip pan under the helm -- as soon as you see a drop, you're in business with lube along the entire inner cable.<br /><br />Having not died, I'm ecstatic with the result.
 

CCrew

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

ROTFL! Great post!<br /><br />-Roger
 

1965MT

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Awsome! I tried the same thing with but with an entirely different result. I ended up with penetrating oil all over me, the boat, the wall, etc... It looks like I gave up too soon.
 

neumanns

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Hunky Dory...Great post. Just shows what a little ingunuity mixed with a dose of sttuborness and a cup and a half of writting wit can accomplish. Welcome Aboared.
 

Peter1959628

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Very good post and could picture you resorting to this from the description.<br />Ok sounds like my old boat steering is in need of this pressure treatment.Im going to have to persuade my good buddy that i could use his air compressor for a while. Just hope that nothing explodes in his yard!
 

akriverrat

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

or, if you have much more time... remove cable from boat, suspend cable vertically after trimming cheap plastic funnel to fit snugly over housing. seal with tape and fill funnell with penatrant/lubricant of your choice. pb and 90 weight was our choice. let hang untill it works its way through. about 36 hours when we did it last year on friends boat. 14' cable. bigger funnel means you don't have to refill as often.
 

Peter1959628

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Steering sort of tight out of water trim up/down.<br />I can move the leg left/right with considerable effort.<br />Response time on the water seriously impaired!<br />Lubricating cable will only help.<br />As this 17ft boat and components are from 1976 is this the only problem? <br />I hope so as i want to sell the boat but want to make it more user friendly whilst manoevering for trailering purposes.<br />When you get power steering you get spoilt!<br />This feels like a p/s that has failed,only problem it has no p/s!!!!!!<br />Guess im going to rip the cable off and proceed with lubes
 

bubbakat

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

thanks for the post I went to my shop today and rigged be up one of those contraptions and went after it but went to auto parts store and got some PB blaster first (liquid kind) and saturated it . Added some oil and put about 8 to 12 pounds of pressure on it and let it set and after a while noticed it was comming out the other end and lubed it real good and now the sterring is working like it was new.
 

Hunky Dory

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Thanks for the comments. Glad the technique has already worked for bubbakat.<br /><br />Peter, I found that more than one part of my 1977 steering system was too stiff (read: dried lube). I'd say that the wheel was one percent (not stiff but fingernails on a blackboard when turned), the outdrive was another 4% (had "stiction" -- hard to move until it did) and the cable was the big 95% of the problem. My cable was so dry that I could not move it (off the boat) without tools and a vise. That wheel has a lot of leverage!<br /><br />You will be more informed after you remove the cable from the transom end. Go after the part that is siezed.<br /><br />And AKRR, the funnel technique sounds great as well, especially if the system is not already locked. Mine took 48 hours under high pressure!<br /><br />But it is soooo nice now!
 

bubbakat

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

another good source of delivery is a bicycle tube<br />cut out the length you want and leave the valve part on the part you are using.<br /> then you slide the one end over the cable and seal off with a clamp or what ever.<br /> then you put your lube in the other end and fold tube off and add air to it ,the amount you are comfortable with and let it set it will force the lube in to cable area. I sealed the end off by twisting in a wrap and then clamping then went back every once in a while and added air
 

Hooty

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Don't know if ya'll have seen these or not. They help.<br /><br /> West Marine <br /><br />c/6<br />Hooty
 

Hunky Dory

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Hooty, I saw those but couldn't figure where or how it would attach to the cable on my outdrive. You'll note that all listed are outboards. <br /><br />Anyway, I emailed somebody to ask and took the absence of a reply to mean they wouldn't work. I'd be real pleased to find out I was wrong because there is nothing quick about my technique. Do you have more info?
 

Peter1959628

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Ok i finally got around to looking at the cable.<br />It would appear that its binding just after it comes out of the rack .There's a tight radius to where it goes aft. and i cannot tell if it is kinked or not.<br /> Are the inside of these cables actually stranded?<br />Or solid?<br />The stern end will not allow me room to remove completely.<br />I am toying with the idea of complete aftermarket wheel rack & cable.<br />Maybe when the weather gets nicer it may change my mind and give me the incentive to repair the one i have!
 

tailgunner

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Re: Lubricating a steering cable

Hooty, gotta love West Marine for charging $30 for a nut with a zerk fitting.<br /><br />When my Teleflex acted up, I used Dri-slide. I use it for my motorcyle cables. It's a liquid graphite I think. It gave me a reprieve from buying a new cable. I finally did fork over $127 for a new cable. The previous owner never lubed the cable in 3 years and it showed.
 
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